Yeah but Biden will announce more defensive ($billions) in aid again this week. Does nobody see what a cluster fuck this admin is? Playing games with a lunatic and trying to negotiate is not how you fight a war.
Salt_Kangaroo_3697 on
What in the God damned fuck is Biden waiting for? Jesus Fucking Christ!
UnratedRamblings on
The restraint and frustration he must keep down as he says this must be so hard to do. I’d just rage and ask them what the fuck are they doing playing these games when there is the opportunity to turn the tide of this war (and probably quite decisively)? Maybe there’s a geopolitical aspect I’m missing, the threats from Pootin may become more real, the alliances with NK and India could become more of an issue, although with these I reckon this is such a time-sensitive issue before the scumbag Putler decides to throw more missiles at children and other indefensible “targets”.
To me – destroy the Russian bases, maybe that will be enough incentive for India and NK to nope out, leaving Russia pretty much alone again, and establish some air superiority so that things like the missile strike on the hospital never happens again.
usolodolo on
Right on Zelenskyy. Push hard on this issue. This is the key question. This is what will make the biggest impact on allowing Ukrainians to resist. The conversations in my local (USA) Ukrainian households have for the first time broached the subject in negotiating land for peace. It fucking sucks because had Ukraine been given weapons and permission earlier, they wouldn’t be in this situation.
NearlyAtTheEnd on
I don’t like that they laugh at him wanting to strike them. This is survival for Ukraine and they’re having a laugh..
E: This was not to discredit Zel. I admire him hugely and the whole of the Ukrainian people.
I don’t think he found it funny by his expression. – And rightfully so. If they laughed just because, that just *isn’t* the time to do so. This is a very serious matter.
They should’ve stood up and applauded to make a statement instead.
I know NATO and those people take this seriously, but that was a way, way wrong reaction to this.
He may have done it for comic effect tootoo, I do not know.
Zvignev on
We are basically playing with them, laughing at them while they struggling for survival. In a year or two they will give up, we will do a solid condolence on tv speech and will move on. I’m so disappointed at our government that I struggle to believe how Zelensky remains calm in a situation like this, I’d shout the hell out of them ( but perhaps that’s why I’m not a very good mediator )
still-on-my-path on
Give him the YES NOW!!
huntingwhale on
Christ, he’s spelling it out like a god damn child and still these politicians quiver with fears of eScAlAtioN at every god damn meeting. Spineless pathetic pussies who still do not grasp the kind of enemy staring them down while the russians literally laugh at their collective weakness.
Zelensky is a lot more calm and professional about it then I ever would be.
joris4you on
Just do it !!!!
Sky_Paladin on
They are laughing while children die. Unforgivable.
I cannot understand this mindset.
Do they not have families of their own? Siblings? Parents? Children? Heck, even pets, homes?
Can they not for one instant imagine the anguish and grief if their own loved ones were taken away? And not just taken – murdered. Murdered, when the force capable of saving them existed and was available but the use was denied.
Can they not understand the fury that builds up? Just because you don’t know the names? Of course, even if Zelensky reads out the names, “And so now you know them”, it doesn’t change this alien mindset.
You don’t have to know them to feel their pain be motivated to act. Anybody with a shred of decency and humanity would have done so.
It is ‘easy’ to ignore soldiers being killed, right? Ah yes, they were heroes who died to save their nation, the leaders might say. Sure. It is a tragedy, and we’ll ignore for a second that the only reason their deaths were ‘necessary’ was because of the failure from the West to act.
But I’ve seen videos of dead parents holding their dead babies, beloved pets in agony from fatal shockwave injuries but nobody to put them out of their misery, crying for the humans to fix them, and I remember the faces in Bucha, Mariupol, and a thousand thousand horrors that we thought left behind in the second world war.
How it can happen today is only through the negligence and deliberate betrayal of the West. We can all see it. Everybody knows it. Sure, Russia is the one perpetrating it, but America is the one encouraging it. They have become co-conspirators in the murders. And they laughed about it.
I will long remember this video. Even though there’s no blood or war, that laughter, It broke me.
19CCCG57 on
SLAVA ZELENSKYi!
navinjohnsonn on
They shouldn’t be laughing they should be cheering.
Smrsin on
u/savevideo
mixiplix_ on
Ukraine has engine and jet technology. Do you think they would be able to produce their own missiles and skip all this approval shit? Or do they just not have the know-how to produce cruise missiles?
DaCmanLou on
Say yes
CouldNotAffordOne on
I don’t think the laughter was meant negatively. I was also giggling watching this. Because the answer to the question was obviously “Yes of course, I want to burn them all!!!”
Send him the
#Yes!
DubbehD on
This guy is my hero, Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💪
saposapot on
They are military targets, not hospitals. It’s a defensive attack. Let them!
radnuke on
Sometimes it’s just easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission.
Zygmunt-zen on
Ruzzians fired at kids hospital, and other residential buildings. Fuck it, go full scorched earth. Blow those bases up until they look like a Siberian Lada junkyard
fjsjo on
Upvote this. Share this. Let everyone know how simple this can be as long as Ukraine is allowed to fight on a more equal playing field.
ItsAllJustAHologram on
Cometh the hour, cometh the man!
History will judge Putin as a murderer hell bent on genocide and Zelenski as a fearless leader of a people of steel standing in Putin’s way!
Zelenski is the man.
jimigo on
Yes!
Competitive_Shock783 on
The US needs to escalate things with Russia. bullies don’t understand anything but force, and this thing in Ukraine will only drag along as long as Russia can operate freely behind their own lines.
MediocreWitness726 on
Just let them strike Russia, wtf is this with the west holding ukraine back whilst these evil butchers (Russia) attacks Ukraine.
Putinlittlepenis2882 on
They shoupd as they please
pres465 on
Hit them. Apologize after. You are allowed to protect your country.
edgardave on
UK says yes
ArcticWolf_Primaris on
I thought they were now allowed to strike bases used for attacks into Ukraine
badstuffaround on
Let them fucking strike wherever they wish. Send a missile up Putin’s ass please.
So stupid putting restrictions on what Ukraine can do. It’s war and Russia has bases all over russia.
Xenome254 on
I can not understand why they do not just “allow” them to use the weapons given to defend themselves properly? What is the intention? Would they also defend themselves like that? I guess not, especially the US which most likely would do a full scale sweep against the enemy. So why do they support a country but do not allow to use the weapon at its full capacity? That is like giving a starving person a full plate of dinner but they are only allowed to heat the outer rim of the plate.
PabloX68 on
Irrefutable logic.
LaPiscinaDeLaMuerte on
Question: Why not bomb the Russian bases? Why does he have to wait for approval from another country? Is it because Ukraine is using weapons and ammunition provided by other countries? Or is there some other geo-political bullshit that I don’t know?
34 commenti
Source: https://x.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1811030845072752967
I saw a good post today, its probably too low effort for this subreddit, but i will leave it here with my comment.
[Kill the archer, not the arrow](https://imgur.com/WbbZiRi)
Yeah but Biden will announce more defensive ($billions) in aid again this week. Does nobody see what a cluster fuck this admin is? Playing games with a lunatic and trying to negotiate is not how you fight a war.
What in the God damned fuck is Biden waiting for? Jesus Fucking Christ!
The restraint and frustration he must keep down as he says this must be so hard to do. I’d just rage and ask them what the fuck are they doing playing these games when there is the opportunity to turn the tide of this war (and probably quite decisively)? Maybe there’s a geopolitical aspect I’m missing, the threats from Pootin may become more real, the alliances with NK and India could become more of an issue, although with these I reckon this is such a time-sensitive issue before the scumbag Putler decides to throw more missiles at children and other indefensible “targets”.
To me – destroy the Russian bases, maybe that will be enough incentive for India and NK to nope out, leaving Russia pretty much alone again, and establish some air superiority so that things like the missile strike on the hospital never happens again.
Right on Zelenskyy. Push hard on this issue. This is the key question. This is what will make the biggest impact on allowing Ukrainians to resist. The conversations in my local (USA) Ukrainian households have for the first time broached the subject in negotiating land for peace. It fucking sucks because had Ukraine been given weapons and permission earlier, they wouldn’t be in this situation.
I don’t like that they laugh at him wanting to strike them. This is survival for Ukraine and they’re having a laugh..
E: This was not to discredit Zel. I admire him hugely and the whole of the Ukrainian people.
I don’t think he found it funny by his expression. – And rightfully so. If they laughed just because, that just *isn’t* the time to do so. This is a very serious matter.
They should’ve stood up and applauded to make a statement instead.
I know NATO and those people take this seriously, but that was a way, way wrong reaction to this.
He may have done it for comic effect tootoo, I do not know.
We are basically playing with them, laughing at them while they struggling for survival. In a year or two they will give up, we will do a solid condolence on tv speech and will move on. I’m so disappointed at our government that I struggle to believe how Zelensky remains calm in a situation like this, I’d shout the hell out of them ( but perhaps that’s why I’m not a very good mediator )
Give him the YES NOW!!
Christ, he’s spelling it out like a god damn child and still these politicians quiver with fears of eScAlAtioN at every god damn meeting. Spineless pathetic pussies who still do not grasp the kind of enemy staring them down while the russians literally laugh at their collective weakness.
Zelensky is a lot more calm and professional about it then I ever would be.
Just do it !!!!
They are laughing while children die. Unforgivable.
I cannot understand this mindset.
Do they not have families of their own? Siblings? Parents? Children? Heck, even pets, homes?
Can they not for one instant imagine the anguish and grief if their own loved ones were taken away? And not just taken – murdered. Murdered, when the force capable of saving them existed and was available but the use was denied.
Can they not understand the fury that builds up? Just because you don’t know the names? Of course, even if Zelensky reads out the names, “And so now you know them”, it doesn’t change this alien mindset.
You don’t have to know them to feel their pain be motivated to act. Anybody with a shred of decency and humanity would have done so.
It is ‘easy’ to ignore soldiers being killed, right? Ah yes, they were heroes who died to save their nation, the leaders might say. Sure. It is a tragedy, and we’ll ignore for a second that the only reason their deaths were ‘necessary’ was because of the failure from the West to act.
But I’ve seen videos of dead parents holding their dead babies, beloved pets in agony from fatal shockwave injuries but nobody to put them out of their misery, crying for the humans to fix them, and I remember the faces in Bucha, Mariupol, and a thousand thousand horrors that we thought left behind in the second world war.
How it can happen today is only through the negligence and deliberate betrayal of the West. We can all see it. Everybody knows it. Sure, Russia is the one perpetrating it, but America is the one encouraging it. They have become co-conspirators in the murders. And they laughed about it.
I will long remember this video. Even though there’s no blood or war, that laughter, It broke me.
SLAVA ZELENSKYi!
They shouldn’t be laughing they should be cheering.
u/savevideo
Ukraine has engine and jet technology. Do you think they would be able to produce their own missiles and skip all this approval shit? Or do they just not have the know-how to produce cruise missiles?
Say yes
I don’t think the laughter was meant negatively. I was also giggling watching this. Because the answer to the question was obviously “Yes of course, I want to burn them all!!!”
Send him the
#Yes!
This guy is my hero, Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💪
They are military targets, not hospitals. It’s a defensive attack. Let them!
Sometimes it’s just easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission.
Ruzzians fired at kids hospital, and other residential buildings. Fuck it, go full scorched earth. Blow those bases up until they look like a Siberian Lada junkyard
Upvote this. Share this. Let everyone know how simple this can be as long as Ukraine is allowed to fight on a more equal playing field.
Cometh the hour, cometh the man!
History will judge Putin as a murderer hell bent on genocide and Zelenski as a fearless leader of a people of steel standing in Putin’s way!
Zelenski is the man.
Yes!
The US needs to escalate things with Russia. bullies don’t understand anything but force, and this thing in Ukraine will only drag along as long as Russia can operate freely behind their own lines.
Just let them strike Russia, wtf is this with the west holding ukraine back whilst these evil butchers (Russia) attacks Ukraine.
They shoupd as they please
Hit them. Apologize after. You are allowed to protect your country.
UK says yes
I thought they were now allowed to strike bases used for attacks into Ukraine
Let them fucking strike wherever they wish. Send a missile up Putin’s ass please.
So stupid putting restrictions on what Ukraine can do. It’s war and Russia has bases all over russia.
I can not understand why they do not just “allow” them to use the weapons given to defend themselves properly? What is the intention? Would they also defend themselves like that? I guess not, especially the US which most likely would do a full scale sweep against the enemy. So why do they support a country but do not allow to use the weapon at its full capacity? That is like giving a starving person a full plate of dinner but they are only allowed to heat the outer rim of the plate.
Irrefutable logic.
Question: Why not bomb the Russian bases? Why does he have to wait for approval from another country? Is it because Ukraine is using weapons and ammunition provided by other countries? Or is there some other geo-political bullshit that I don’t know?