Il Regno Unito ha negato all’Ucraina il permesso di utilizzare i missili Storm Shadow nella sua offensiva di Kursk, nonostante le richieste del presidente Zelensky di attacchi missilistici a lungo raggio in profondità nella Russia.
https://united24media.com/latest-news/uk-denies-ukraine-use-of-storm-shadow-missiles-in-kursk-offensive-1720
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Scalp maybe?
stop fuckin pussy footing around and let ukraine fight without one hand tied behind it’s back.
Half measures are the same as none, get your heads out of your asses!
There should be no restrictions on any of the equipment provided.
Key point of the article:
>The decision on how Storm Shadow missiles are employed is not solely up to the UK Government, as the missiles are co-manufactured with France, giving Paris a say in the matter as well.
So it’s likely that UAF don’t get permission for thoses provided by France aswell.
I’m so ashamed of that…
Fuck the West for its weakness and insufficient help to Ukraine.
Ffs. Let Ukraine fight how it needs to so it can win this war quicker than it will by putting restrictions in.
It just doesn’t make sense to me. I do not believe russia will retaliate in a way that destroys the world because missiles made in the UK and France is used to stop them militarily.
Absolute cowards.
Fucking wimps. Russia is not a country to be scared of and Ukraine is proving that over and over. Stop fucking around and let Ukraine fight this war for the rest of the world because that’s what they are doing. Ukraine succeeding is good for all of us.
The down side to democracy – a newly elected government doesn’t always have the same commitment as the previous one, whatever they said while campaigning
The words “weak” and “infirm” come to mind here. We need to remember that the heroes of Ukraine aren’t just fighting for Ukrainian freedom, they’re fighting for all of our freedom. Imagine your neighbour’s property is on fire, the fire is heading your direction, and you won’t allow the neighbour access to your well. That’s how this feels to me.
You brave
Ukrainians keep fighting!! We will give you just enough to not lose but not enough to win!! Stay strong!!
Well they are swift to adopt.
They can infiltrate Russia, with a few groups, blending in.
Sabotaging from within.
Cmon france and UK, im guessing it’s more of France being the stopper here…
Fuck sake… WHY??
On the other hand, north korean missiles hitting Ukraine is no problem. Is that it UK ?
Or they’ll wait for Ukraine to lose a few thousand more troops and ground to give their OK? What a waste of time and lives.
FFS Starmer. I’d be happy for our armed forces to go in. So at a minimum, give the Ukrainians the weapons they need and the freedom to use them fully.
More evidence of pussy allies of Ukraine.
We are bound and determined to be in a shooting war in the next five years, aren’t we?
Bugger.
Take the fucking gloves off.
The West: Give em hell, Ukraine.
Also the West: Wait not like that
Wasnt there a leak like 8 months back that the US overruled the UK allowing stormshadows on Russian soil? I believe people thought it was fake/misinformation at the time but it would explain why we havent seen their use on Russian territory.
The UK should allow it, absolutely.
Hey now people calm down, we wouldn’t want to cause an escalation with Russia. /s
This is from July “The United Kingdom has reaffirmed its stance on the autonomous use of Storm Shadow missiles provided to Ukraine, according to Bloomberg. Speaking to reporters while en route to a NATO summit in Washington on July 9, 2024, a UK representative emphasized that Ukraine has the final say in how these long-range missiles are deployed against military targets within Russia.”
Has something changed? Doesn’t sound very autonomous. I suppose it’s because Ukraine is on the offensive and not just on defense.
“oops. Missile operator heard wrong message. Won’t happen again”
This is how South Vietnam was lost. They sure had muscle to fight but not the brain to keep on fighting in the eastern front
It is really idiotic to deny permission, unless, of course, it’s done so to absolve the UK of any blame “if” Ukraine accidentally uses some projectiles by mistake.
Isn’t that the point of the offensive?
“Huh? Storm Shadows *already in Russia*, so we’re not firing *into* Russia, we’re already here!”
Correct answer UK: “Ah, quite so! Cheerio!”
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Everyone here in UK – ring your local MP and demand they raise the issue
Wow, can you imagine the thick playbook that Ukraine must reference with all the various ordinance and the restrictions and conditions that apply to each piece.
Must be frustrating as hell and ridiculous.
Well, looks like I’ll be writing a letter….
Posting on X, formerly Twitter, Mr Zelensky shared a photograph of himself and Sir Keir, with the caption: “This morning, I learnt about the permission to use Storm Shadow missiles against military targets in Russian territory. Today, we had the opportunity to discuss the practical implementation of this decision.”
Sources confirmed the missile has not been used this year and stressed that Mr Zelensky would have to “seek assurances elsewhere” before Ukraine could fire the cruise missiles into Russian territory.
They added that these assurances were not a done deal.
A senior defence source said the situation was “more nuanced” than Ukraine’s president had suggested.
**They added that permission to launch the strategic missile into Russia would require a sign off from three countries, one of which is the United Kingdom. France manufactures the Storm Shadow alongside the UK.**
“It’s not going to happen,” the source added when asked if Ukraine will fire Storm Shadow into Russia.
I can’t link to this, as it’s from the Telegraph – as is the OP article.
I know they are usually useless, but can we start a U.K. petition that is for the unlimited use of all U.K. donated weapons to be used as Ukraine sees fit? How’s does one go about setting up a petition?
Our ruling classes are idiots.
UK residents – [write to your MP](https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/) and lay out why Ukraine needs those missiles to strike inside russia.
I don’t know how effective it will be but we need to try.
That is just sad. Ukraine defending the own country and also whole europe. NOW is the time to fuck russia big time. But no, let cowardice make it harder again for ukraine.
Muy disappoint! Wtf, Kier????
I don’t get it. Weren’t we (the UK) the first to authorise use of our weapons “as Ukraine sees fit” a few short weeks ago? What changed!?
This makes me angry.
I think strikes within the border oblasts should be allowed, Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk and Rostov, further afield I can understand the concerns although don’t agree with them.
I apologise for the fucking fannies running this country, fucking embarrassing. Edit – I’ve just realised i have a new local MP to hound mercilessly, so this is partly my fault, it will be rectified as soon as humanly possible.
As a Brit, I disapprove of this. However, it’s worth pointing out that both StormShadow and ATACMS need mission involvement from US, UK and potentially France to effectively target and program routes. There’s probably a fine line between assisting Ukraine defend itself and aiding incursion into a sovereign state (even one that has invaded another).
I await the downvotes, but that’s the situation