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    I principali donatori europei di aiuti militari all’Ucraina

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    2. ntropyyyy on

      i thought poland was one of the biggest supporters of ukraine.

    3. Aggravating-Ice5149 on

      I believe this does not give away what the real support is. I mean every country can themself value the cost of an military device. For sure weapons produced in Germany or Norway are more expsensive then those procuded in Poland. I would prefer an chart showing which weapons have the most effect ont he battlefield instead.

    4. ProfessionalOwn9435 on

      There could be a factor that KIEL only counts official public data, and some countries dont like to broadcast their actions.

    5. Sium4443 on

      France and Italy dont say how much they give so where is their data from?

    6. SmoothNewt on

      Bring out the tape measures and dicks out for Harambe. Let’s measure them bad boiz.

    7. -Vikthor- on

      Why are Nordics groupped together? I can’t find any rationale for that in the source document.

    8. Supernova22222 on

      I bet if the substantial EU funding is ignored Norway gave the most of the so-called “scandinavian” countries. Norway is a war profiteer, cutting the ties between relatively cheap Russian energy and the EU is one big bonanza for the scandi petro state. American NATO quissling in europe Stoltenberg is also Norwegian. They can afford to be generous to keep the war machine going and avoid peace, it`s like a lobbying expense in the US for big industries.

    9. Supernova22222 on

      I bet if the substantial EU funding is ignored Norway gave the most of the so-called “scandinavian” countries. Norway is a war profiteer, cutting the ties between relatively cheap Russian energy and the EU is one big bonanza for the scandi petro state. Americas NATO quissling in europe Stoltenberg is also Norwegian. With all these profits they can afford to appear generous when it comes to aid. The true goal is to keep the war machine going, it`s like a lobbying expense.

    10. Inhabitant on

      We were quick to donate at first, but then we had to weigh it against our own army becoming too vulnerable as we still await the deliveries of modern replacements.

    11. Florencki on

      People are still posting laughable Kiel as some kind of credible source? Its completely nonsensical, they omit half of PL support and iam sure big portion of French and Italian too.

      “Poland has already provided 44 military aid packages to Ukraine worth €4 billion and has pledged to provide several more this year and into the next decade.” That was in July accompanied with information that 45 package is in the making and there will be few more in 2024.

      [https://kyivindependent.com/poland-supplying-ukraine-with-45th-military-aid-package-official-says/](https://kyivindependent.com/poland-supplying-ukraine-with-45th-military-aid-package-official-says/)

    14. superkoning on

      “Nederland leverde inmiddels voor € 3,1 miljard aan militaire steun aan Oekraïne (stand 5 juni 2024).”

      So Netherlands 3.1 billion euro military support alone. So more than Italy (2 billion), but not in graph?

    17. _pxe on

      Based on this graph Italy didn’t donate anything after may 2023, totaling 1bln in donations.

      That’s weird considering that in that period Italy donated a SAMP/T battery, which is worth almost half the total donations, without considering all the missiles delivered over time. Also it cuts exactly when the second battery was announced.

    18. ballthyrm on

      France recently signed a contract to provide a steady stream of gliding bombs, missiles and 155 ammunition. Unless this is counted in one batch, the line should steadily go up.

    19. Maj0r-DeCoverley on

      Several remarks could be made here. TL;DR: a graph of the **producers of military aid** would be, as always, more relevant.

      First of all, military aid is paramount but **economic help also has existential importance for Ukraine: that’s the one they use to produce their own weapons**, thus it is often indirect military aid. In that regard France and Germany are, as always, underestimated on those graphs. Moreover since 3/4 of the aid (for France) is labeled as “EU aid” and not “French aid” as it goes through the common EU fund.

      France again: as the Kiel Institute say themselves, France is particularly opaque on its aid. A good chunk of its military aid can’t make it in the harmonized datas, because its nature isn’t disclosed.

      The paragraph above makes even more sense if you consider France *produces* its military aid. That’s often not cannibalized stocks (the AMX-10 were!), that’s not pocket money given by someone else. That’s local production and innovation. Thus the datas are more protected. Also, for instance if [country] gives Caesar canons to Ukraine, they paid for it indeed but who created those canons in the first place?

      In that regard, France and Germany has been major producers of shells for Ukraine, and ramping up production progressively. Shells don’t cost much and therefore doesn’t make big beautiful bars on graphs, however they’re arguably the most important aid there is. Behind shiny videos of shiny stuff, shells has been the weapon deciding who advance and who retreats for two years now. More than missiles, more than drones, more than tanks. Parts of those shells and canons produced on both side of the Rhine are being paid for by allies, and then shown as [ally] help to Ukraine.

      I’m just giving context here, not excusing my own country for not doing even more than it already does. In the same vein, the EU provides more help than the US does but that fact is often hidden by anglocentric graphs cherrypicking what makes *them* look good.

      That’s not a dick contest. We’re all doing what we can for Ukraine.

    20. Thick-Tip9255 on

      Proud to be a Nordic country 🇸🇪

      I hope those tanks, ATVs, launchers, and the rest come to good use!

    21. Andrzhel on

      Guys, this isn’t a competition. So, please relax.
      As long as we all support Ukraine, we don’t need to make a dick-measuring contest out of it 🙂

    22. Inside-Till3391 on

      It’s not a free meal and whoever donates more now will gain more money after war in theory, so you make money from the war in essence.

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