He is right! Tories were desperate to fake GDP growth and used mass migration to fudge the numbers. All aspects of this huge increase resulting from tory policy to artificially boost GDP, and plug gaps in staffing industries with cheap foreign labour.
Wow, a nationalist and isolationnist policy that fails? Again? We should definitely keep going, we just did not do it enough. Let’s do the same things and it will surely be different.
gerningur on
Interesting that the UK had net emigration until so late.
traumalt on
But hey, no more polish plumbers and lorry drivers.
Now they are from India instead.
Dismal-Attitude-5439 on
We don’t gloat, we are better than that
chanjitsu on
I get that this post is a “Brexit bad” post but I have a genuine question – how much of this is Hong Kong and Ukranian people? The government were pretty open about letting them in due to their circumstances.
Edit: I wasn’t implying anything, I was just asking a question. I don’t like to make blind assumptions.
Sad_Isopod_3727 on
Brexit should be a warning for all of Europe.
Classic_Department42 on
is it because more people come, or UK people are not easily allowed to move to europe anymore. Edit: downvoters: which one is it?
Amckinstry on
Is this about accounting for (former?) EU citizens? especially Romanians etc who would be migrant workers and not previously show up on the stats (too short term), but now have to migrate if they ever want to work in the UK.
TokyoBaguette on
When you point this out to brexitards you get all sorts of excuses…
yubnubster on
The migration stats include people arriving on a student visa , so temporary residents bringing resource into the country. There was about 450k in 2023 on student visas. I don’t see this as a negative, but that really inflates the overall figure.
AddictedToRugs on
EU migration wasn’t being measured before Brexit.
thebear1011 on
I’ve generally always been pro immigration. Perhaps the 2020 figure is reasonable to sustain. The recent years are clearly unsustainable though.
BennyBagnuts1st on
You can just read the report here. The biggest increase is due to students who couldn’t come during Covid.
UK needs to improve their democracy. End FPTP and turn hostile towards tabloids.
PckMan on
So many people voted on it specifically to curb immigration and all they did was stop immigration of EU citizens all the while everyone else was unaffected. In fact the fact that EU citizens have a much harder time getting to the UK for academic/professional opportunities just means that more people from other places will rush in to fill the gap. Great for those people I guess but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t EU immigrants Brexiteers were voting to stop.
All that which is to say that the UK needs immigrants whether they want to admit it or not. These immigrants are not stealing jobs, they’re taking jobs locals either refuse to do or, very often, employers refuse to offer to locals.
NoRecipe3350 on
It has little to do with Brexit and mostly to do with a lying and unpopular government
Ecknarf on
It’s after Boris, really. It’s correlation, rather than causation.
I guess Brexit was why he got in, so in a roundabout way Brexit can be blamed, but it wasn’t inherent to Brexit. Doing Brexit, did not require the UK to adopt open borders with the rest of the world. The UK could have just not done that, and let immigration dry up.
It was a policy choice by Boris and his government to open the floodgates to the third world. He speaks quite openly about it too..
It was a (moronic) attempt to drive down inflation after COVID.
Eddyzk on
lol
navetzz on
There are sooooooooo many ways to interprate this. Especially since it only shows the net migration. For instance, maybe the difference is due to more people staying in the country as opposed as more going in ?
So, someone pro Brexit might say, Brexit is such a success that British people now longer want to leave the country.
While someone pro Europe might say, Brexit is such a joke, it didn’t even stop immigration.
TL;DR we can’t conclude squat from those numbers.
joshistaken on
hah
Sailing-Cyclist on
And the ones’ voting for it will deny it, because people can’t stomach truth these days.
Aegis_of_perdition on
At least it’s not those pesky Europeans anymore.
Kunjunk on
Yes but it did to the EU as well so this post is quite misleading.
at0mheart on
Thought they wanted the opposite ?
BlessingsOfLiberty25 on
So weird watching foreigners try to understand British politics through their own lenses, and get it completely wrong.
No, the immigration boom happened because of specific policy choices that were not caused by Brexit. They both a) could have been made had we not left or b) not been made despite us having left.
The act of us leaving did not necessarily lead to this, it was a conscious act by the government that then got voted out partly because of a massive split in the Right vote that was appalled by it.
The headline may as well be ‘net migration exploded after Boris’
ciaranmac17 on
Net would include Brits going home because they can’t live in Benidorm anymore, right?
Silviu85 on
Putin’s plan in progress
Darklight731 on
If only the British people voted for something that would ensure they keep control of their own borders…
Substantial_Squash84 on
The public were warned that Brexit would just replace EU migrants from further afield.
Similar to every western economy, we have a aging population and need labour to fill in the gaps.
If you go to the UK subs it’s just a ton of people complaining about the figures while unwilling to acknowledge Brexit’s role.
You couldn’t make this idiocy up lol
lawrotzr on
Brexit means Brexit. We’re delivering Brexit.
supersonic-bionic on
Haha and most of them are from India, Vietnam, Nigeria
You don’t want EU migrants? Cool, have some from Asia and Africa!
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[source](https://cps.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CPS_TAKING_BACK_CONTROL_PDF.pdf)
Keir Starmer [says](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2024/nov/28/keir-starmer-on-migration-tories-ran-open-borders-experiment-video) the Tories and Nigel Farage turned Britain into an ‘open-borders experiment’ and that today’s immigration figures were ‘by design’.
He is right! Tories were desperate to fake GDP growth and used mass migration to fudge the numbers. All aspects of this huge increase resulting from tory policy to artificially boost GDP, and plug gaps in staffing industries with cheap foreign labour.
Nigel Farage: [I prefer Indians to Poles, they abide by the law](https://www.thetimes.com/article/farage-i-prefer-indians-to-poles-they-abide-by-the-law-mj2hhbc092t)
The Brexit train can’t stop winning it seems.
Brexit means Brexit
Dropped [20% this year](https://news.sky.com/story/net-migration-to-the-uk-falls-by-20-to-728-000-over-last-year-13262158) from 906k to 728k, as previous Govt changed the rules so since January, most students have not been allowed to bring dependents with them, with exceptions only for those studying at PhD level.
Wow, a nationalist and isolationnist policy that fails? Again? We should definitely keep going, we just did not do it enough. Let’s do the same things and it will surely be different.
Interesting that the UK had net emigration until so late.
But hey, no more polish plumbers and lorry drivers.
Now they are from India instead.
We don’t gloat, we are better than that
I get that this post is a “Brexit bad” post but I have a genuine question – how much of this is Hong Kong and Ukranian people? The government were pretty open about letting them in due to their circumstances.
Edit: I wasn’t implying anything, I was just asking a question. I don’t like to make blind assumptions.
Brexit should be a warning for all of Europe.
is it because more people come, or UK people are not easily allowed to move to europe anymore. Edit: downvoters: which one is it?
Is this about accounting for (former?) EU citizens? especially Romanians etc who would be migrant workers and not previously show up on the stats (too short term), but now have to migrate if they ever want to work in the UK.
When you point this out to brexitards you get all sorts of excuses…
The migration stats include people arriving on a student visa , so temporary residents bringing resource into the country. There was about 450k in 2023 on student visas. I don’t see this as a negative, but that really inflates the overall figure.
EU migration wasn’t being measured before Brexit.
I’ve generally always been pro immigration. Perhaps the 2020 figure is reasonable to sustain. The recent years are clearly unsustainable though.
You can just read the report here. The biggest increase is due to students who couldn’t come during Covid.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingjune2024
UK needs to improve their democracy. End FPTP and turn hostile towards tabloids.
So many people voted on it specifically to curb immigration and all they did was stop immigration of EU citizens all the while everyone else was unaffected. In fact the fact that EU citizens have a much harder time getting to the UK for academic/professional opportunities just means that more people from other places will rush in to fill the gap. Great for those people I guess but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t EU immigrants Brexiteers were voting to stop.
All that which is to say that the UK needs immigrants whether they want to admit it or not. These immigrants are not stealing jobs, they’re taking jobs locals either refuse to do or, very often, employers refuse to offer to locals.
It has little to do with Brexit and mostly to do with a lying and unpopular government
It’s after Boris, really. It’s correlation, rather than causation.
I guess Brexit was why he got in, so in a roundabout way Brexit can be blamed, but it wasn’t inherent to Brexit. Doing Brexit, did not require the UK to adopt open borders with the rest of the world. The UK could have just not done that, and let immigration dry up.
It was a policy choice by Boris and his government to open the floodgates to the third world. He speaks quite openly about it too..
It was a (moronic) attempt to drive down inflation after COVID.
lol
There are sooooooooo many ways to interprate this. Especially since it only shows the net migration. For instance, maybe the difference is due to more people staying in the country as opposed as more going in ?
So, someone pro Brexit might say, Brexit is such a success that British people now longer want to leave the country.
While someone pro Europe might say, Brexit is such a joke, it didn’t even stop immigration.
TL;DR we can’t conclude squat from those numbers.
hah
And the ones’ voting for it will deny it, because people can’t stomach truth these days.
At least it’s not those pesky Europeans anymore.
Yes but it did to the EU as well so this post is quite misleading.
Thought they wanted the opposite ?
So weird watching foreigners try to understand British politics through their own lenses, and get it completely wrong.
No, the immigration boom happened because of specific policy choices that were not caused by Brexit. They both a) could have been made had we not left or b) not been made despite us having left.
The act of us leaving did not necessarily lead to this, it was a conscious act by the government that then got voted out partly because of a massive split in the Right vote that was appalled by it.
The headline may as well be ‘net migration exploded after Boris’
Net would include Brits going home because they can’t live in Benidorm anymore, right?
Putin’s plan in progress
If only the British people voted for something that would ensure they keep control of their own borders…
The public were warned that Brexit would just replace EU migrants from further afield.
Similar to every western economy, we have a aging population and need labour to fill in the gaps.
If you go to the UK subs it’s just a ton of people complaining about the figures while unwilling to acknowledge Brexit’s role.
You couldn’t make this idiocy up lol
Brexit means Brexit. We’re delivering Brexit.
Haha and most of them are from India, Vietnam, Nigeria
You don’t want EU migrants? Cool, have some from Asia and Africa!