Zelenskyj aperto al cessate il fuoco se la NATO protegge le aree non occupate
https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelenskiy-suggests-cease-fire-nato-211325526.html
di Not_the-kind
Zelenskyj aperto al cessate il fuoco se la NATO protegge le aree non occupate
https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelenskiy-suggests-cease-fire-nato-211325526.html
di Not_the-kind
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The main goal for Ukraine is to secure its sovereignty and if the West wants the war to end we need to give it stronger security guarantees than it had before 2022.
If Ukraine can’t gain entry to NATO, and if it can’t get some sort of protection via boots on the ground from allied countries (perhaps posting soldiers there as a trip wire force to act as a deterrence) then I can’t see why they wouldn’t go ahead with nukes. Otherwise Russia will be back as long as Kyiv continues to pursue a geopolitical strategy free of influence from Moscow.
Putin will never agree. Ukraine should keep going till they get to Moscow. Putins a piece of shit and thinking about how to invade Ukraine in the future if this conflict ends soon. He will never stop. A ceasefire will only give Russia a chance to reorganize.
I have heard this presented different ways.
One is with the part of Ukraine under Ukrainian control becoming part of NATO.
The other is NATO protecting the aforementioned but not being allowed formally part of NATO.
I think the second is more likely knowing trumps earlier statements (although he is known as the definition of flip flopping lol) but also those comments of his recent general appointment to the russia/ukraine situation.
What I do know is that in the next two months we need as many missile systems and missiles as well as artillery systems and artillery shells going to Ukraine as is possible.
We have the central bank of Russia marching towards the brink.
We have a growing demographic crisis.
Crisis after crisis and we need to keep compounding them and have them reach climax together.
Hopefully causing places like Georgia and others to move further away from Russia control.
Reversing all Putin has achieved in the last few decades.
Putins own crony criminal mafia kremlin to smell blood in the water and hopefully cannabalize him and his guard (Bortnikov and the like).
Personally think it’d be the least bad of both worlds compromise giving up parts of the East; mostly because of given how many that live there are naively pro Russia, and have that area as a sort of buffer DMZ kind of way. But only on condition the rest of Ukraine then gets deadset guarantees. Though with that condition; I don’t see Putin agreeing. The Alternative is continuing and risking more loss of land as Europe and America withdraws more and more support the more Russia wins the social media disinformation/propaganda war.
I don’t believe Russia will implode on itself despite the financial situation, before enough western support has dwindled enough to where independence can’t be maintained.
Except, three parties in this need to be in agreement.
1. NATO ( 30 votes something all have to agree, they wont because its for one against the rules to have a country join when its borders are disputed. Russia has claims on Ukrainian territories and Ukraine has stated part of Russia is Ukrainian ). Irony here is , Zelensky is asking NATO , but Ukraine cannot even Join the EU under the present conditions.
2. Russia has to agree. Obviously it wont agree because some of its objectives still remain. and this leaves open the question .
3. Ukraine has to agree. This will require a referendum, which isn’t possible at present.
Doesn’t matter if Zelenskyy is open to it. The real question is if the Russians are open to it.
Nice predicament for Putler and NATO to figure out.
NATO membership is the main reason for the war. I doubt Putin will agree. Best case scenario Ukraine gets most of the occupied lands with agreement not to join NATO, worst case scenario continued war of attrition with young men on both sides dying senselessly.