La prossima volta che vedi/senti qualcuno piangere per qualcosa in campagna, chiedigli perché continui a fare sempre la stessa cosa aspettandoti risultati diversi
Call me crazy but I have a theory that the people whinging are not the same people voting FFG.
Dreenar18 on
Currently in work listening to a trio of 50+ co workers defending Harris snapping at the carer because “ah, shur ye know yer self when yer tired or in a hurry and you don’t mean it”. Want to bash a wall down with my head
VonBombadier on
“I’ve got MY house, I have health insurance and my kid goes to private school. FG wants to give us landlords half a billion quid and keep the poors down, no brainer lol”
mrlinkwii on
the country isnt fucked tho…..
Leavser1 on
People generally aren’t complaining to be honest.
Maybe your circle of friends are but generally anyone I talk to is fairly loaded and doing ok.
Look at any concert that goes on sale. Selling out at ridiculous prices because people have a huge amount of disposable cash
JONFER--- on
Politics in this country is never about voting to ensure that the people you want to get into power do. With the inevitability of coalition negotiations, conference and supply agreements et cetera it’s about voting in such a way that the fuckers you don’t want to get into power don’t.
That is one of the failings of proportional representation. As much as people hate admitting it there are some advantages to first past the vote election systems.
They are more clear-cut so that people know what they are getting, and the governments tend to get shit done. As opposed two weeks of negotiations for a programme for government that tries to cater to the manifesto promises of all involved and ends up very weak.
I have never in my life said that the country is fucked and/or basically destroyed.
ThatGuy98_ on
Ahh, the salt in this sub is so funny. Maybe one day this sub will realise it’s not representative of the country as a whole!
Beginning-Sundae8760 on
Did people really not learn from the US election that Reddit is not an accurate representation of the whole voter demographic
CurrencyDesperate286 on
Have you considered that the people voting for FF and FG are not the same ones complaining?
cynical_scotsman on
I’m kind of fed up listening to people complain about politics in Ireland and then not voting or doing anything really. My constituency had nearly 20 candidates ranging from far left to far right. Transferable votes means your vote does and can have an impact. Try living in a first past the post constituency that has never changed hands in 80 years… that’s justified apathy.
Fit-Courage-8170 on
And yet some bollockses in central Dublin think voting for a crime lord is good for the country. Mad times
sartres-shart on
Ya, in fairness ff and fg going into government together, in 2020 was a huge historic shift in Irish politics.
I don’t see another major shift along those lines, ie a majority SF government, for at least another 15/20 years.
CreativeBandicoot778 on
Had a full blown argument with my dad when I told him I’d be voting Lab/SocDem/Green because honestly fuck FFFG and the shitehawk they came in on. My dad was staggered that I’d consider voting Greens because ‘they’ve destroyed the country with their petty squabbles’.
Talk about an inability to see the wood from the trees.
It’s absolutely *infuriating*.
eo37 on
Almost as if FG/FF voters don’t spend all their time on Reddit constantly moaning. This sub is like a SF echo chamber at times.
dubguy37 on
Nice way to tar everyone with the same brush.
YoIronFistBro on
Who do you think we should vote for instead.
Tactical_Laser_Bream on
Certain people once again getting upset that Reddit is not representative of reality.
Sprezzatura1988 on
‘By *my* local FF/FG TD wouldn’t do anything bad. They show up to the residents association meetings and got funding for the new pitch!’
tweedledoooo on
I don’t think the problem is the people complaining voted for FF and FG I think a lot of them just didn’t vote at all.
Alarmed_Station6185 on
I think the story that’s coming through is of an age divide. Older voters who own their houses and are comfortable voted for the status quo. Younger voters went for non gov parties but looks like not enough of them voted to give those parties a majority. Although it’s early days and I think there will be a few bloody noses for the gov as well as the greens being wiped out, which wasnt reflected by the exit poll last night
Hairy-cheeky-monkey on
The majority of this country see a booming economy, low unemployment, massive tax takes, assets like housing increasing in value, a fairly generous social welfare structure, a visible increase in house building all over Ireland. A COVID crises and Brexit handled very well in general.
That’s why they are voting as they are.
I’m not saying that the underlying issues are being tackled well in reality or that we are not careening towards our next crisis.
But the optics are this country is doing well and being handled well with the qualifier that we have serious issues.
The people who moan the loudest seem to vote the least. Happy enough myself with how it’s going.
yankdotcom1985 on
40% turnout is the issue people should have,if you want change it takes people to come together and do it,not hope that somone else stands up and does it for you,id be interested in the statistics of first time voters as thats where the future is.if a large ammount of first time votes were for the likes of SF,SD ect then at least you know there is a turn towards change in this country on the horizon but its going to take decades for that to happen if the majority of people dont even vote
Witty_Artichoke8537 on
Chances are the ones giving out, are usually the ones who don’t bother to vote.
ulankford on
Not everyone lives on Reddit, constantly moaning and cribbing about everything. Maybe just maybe folks who do this here and online are out of touch with the average person out there who doesn’t think Ireland is a failed state…
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Call me crazy but I have a theory that the people whinging are not the same people voting FFG.
Currently in work listening to a trio of 50+ co workers defending Harris snapping at the carer because “ah, shur ye know yer self when yer tired or in a hurry and you don’t mean it”. Want to bash a wall down with my head
“I’ve got MY house, I have health insurance and my kid goes to private school. FG wants to give us landlords half a billion quid and keep the poors down, no brainer lol”
the country isnt fucked tho…..
People generally aren’t complaining to be honest.
Maybe your circle of friends are but generally anyone I talk to is fairly loaded and doing ok.
Look at any concert that goes on sale. Selling out at ridiculous prices because people have a huge amount of disposable cash
Politics in this country is never about voting to ensure that the people you want to get into power do. With the inevitability of coalition negotiations, conference and supply agreements et cetera it’s about voting in such a way that the fuckers you don’t want to get into power don’t.
That is one of the failings of proportional representation. As much as people hate admitting it there are some advantages to first past the vote election systems.
They are more clear-cut so that people know what they are getting, and the governments tend to get shit done. As opposed two weeks of negotiations for a programme for government that tries to cater to the manifesto promises of all involved and ends up very weak.
What’s the definition of insanity again….
Sure,he fixed the road!
https://youtu.be/cjl8OIZijjY?si=ZtE_l4hUPZIQuO9Y
I have never in my life said that the country is fucked and/or basically destroyed.
Ahh, the salt in this sub is so funny. Maybe one day this sub will realise it’s not representative of the country as a whole!
Did people really not learn from the US election that Reddit is not an accurate representation of the whole voter demographic
Have you considered that the people voting for FF and FG are not the same ones complaining?
I’m kind of fed up listening to people complain about politics in Ireland and then not voting or doing anything really. My constituency had nearly 20 candidates ranging from far left to far right. Transferable votes means your vote does and can have an impact. Try living in a first past the post constituency that has never changed hands in 80 years… that’s justified apathy.
And yet some bollockses in central Dublin think voting for a crime lord is good for the country. Mad times
Ya, in fairness ff and fg going into government together, in 2020 was a huge historic shift in Irish politics.
I don’t see another major shift along those lines, ie a majority SF government, for at least another 15/20 years.
Had a full blown argument with my dad when I told him I’d be voting Lab/SocDem/Green because honestly fuck FFFG and the shitehawk they came in on. My dad was staggered that I’d consider voting Greens because ‘they’ve destroyed the country with their petty squabbles’.
Talk about an inability to see the wood from the trees.
It’s absolutely *infuriating*.
Almost as if FG/FF voters don’t spend all their time on Reddit constantly moaning. This sub is like a SF echo chamber at times.
Nice way to tar everyone with the same brush.
Who do you think we should vote for instead.
Certain people once again getting upset that Reddit is not representative of reality.
‘By *my* local FF/FG TD wouldn’t do anything bad. They show up to the residents association meetings and got funding for the new pitch!’
I don’t think the problem is the people complaining voted for FF and FG I think a lot of them just didn’t vote at all.
I think the story that’s coming through is of an age divide. Older voters who own their houses and are comfortable voted for the status quo. Younger voters went for non gov parties but looks like not enough of them voted to give those parties a majority. Although it’s early days and I think there will be a few bloody noses for the gov as well as the greens being wiped out, which wasnt reflected by the exit poll last night
The majority of this country see a booming economy, low unemployment, massive tax takes, assets like housing increasing in value, a fairly generous social welfare structure, a visible increase in house building all over Ireland. A COVID crises and Brexit handled very well in general.
That’s why they are voting as they are.
I’m not saying that the underlying issues are being tackled well in reality or that we are not careening towards our next crisis.
But the optics are this country is doing well and being handled well with the qualifier that we have serious issues.
This election basically reminds me of this clip https://youtu.be/cjl8OIZijjY?si=PlhFiXVX2WYOXwnj
Call me picky, but how is education destroyed?
The people who moan the loudest seem to vote the least. Happy enough myself with how it’s going.
40% turnout is the issue people should have,if you want change it takes people to come together and do it,not hope that somone else stands up and does it for you,id be interested in the statistics of first time voters as thats where the future is.if a large ammount of first time votes were for the likes of SF,SD ect then at least you know there is a turn towards change in this country on the horizon but its going to take decades for that to happen if the majority of people dont even vote
Chances are the ones giving out, are usually the ones who don’t bother to vote.
Not everyone lives on Reddit, constantly moaning and cribbing about everything. Maybe just maybe folks who do this here and online are out of touch with the average person out there who doesn’t think Ireland is a failed state…