Il governo olandese vuole limitare la popolazione a 20 milioni

Arbitrary population caps worked so well in China. I’m sure the Dutch government has it absolutely all figured out.

Innovative approaches 😂

20.000.001 citizen : “No No No No No, Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait!

Right wing government trying to blame some 30.000 refugees that are let in a year for all the problems while ignoring the 200.000 worker migrants they’ve let in every year for decades because businesses want them to.

specially blaming them for a lack of housing… after the previous right wing government ended the ministry of housing in 2017, claiming the the housing market was ‘complete’, and that the free market would take care of it.

I wonder how it’ll work though. I get that the natural birth rate isn’t hitting the replacement rate (2.1 or so), so without immigration it doesn’t really need to be “enforced”, it’ll happen anyway…

But:

a) can they stop immigration, if they’re within the EU or Schengen Area?

b) is that sustainable? Seems to be most economies now run almost as a pyramid scheme, where we need an ever growing population in order to take care of the healthcare and welfare costs of the older generations. (Of course, that’s not sustainable either!)

Sometimes I think about the fact that if France had followed the same demographic trend as the neighbors, there would be 100-120 million people in France (maybe more would have migrated to the Americas; maybe less European migrants would have flocked to France from 1880 to 1960; we’ll never know)

Anyway I already consider my country is overcrowded right now. So I can’t even imagine the Netherlands.

Ok how ? Really wondering about it. Send 20m1th person to Africa 😹 like Brits ?

No cap: Dutch government wants to cap population at 20m

Dutch government panders to the racist to seem credible! Even though they cant enforce a cap

TAKE ME TO THE SLAUGHTER

Send the extra people to Italy. We need more!

Now all the people who hate government (and I assume in any European country it’s at least 50%) will have kids just out of spite. Brilliant.

Why Malthusians still have any amount of political influence in 2024, I have no idea.

I mean, surely you’d need to have some kind of restriction even for migration from other EU countries, how’s that going to work?

Insert Thanos “I’m sorry little one” meme

I thought we have a significant demographic problem in Europe, and as such would actually prefer to have as much skilled immigration as possible, to offset the expected population decline somewhat?

Why the need to cap it when population is already declining?

|Netherlands – Historical Fertility Rate Data|
|:-|
|Year|Fertility Rate|
|2024|1.683|
|2023|1.680|
|2022|1.676|
|2021|1.672|
|2020|1.668|
|2019|1.664|
|||

Before anything, we have absolute looney toons running the country (no I’ll not hear you out) who are scared to death of anyone that doesn’t look north west European. Naturally, our population would decline due to our low birth rate, but we let in 30k immigrants from war torn countries in a year or so. Does that offset it? Absolutely not, our population would still shrink. However, we are pretty capitalist when it comes to letting big NGOs run the show, so we get some 200k labor migrants coming to us a year as well, so every 5 years or so our population grows by 5%.

In and of itself it’s not a wild statement to say we are overpopulated, and need to curb the growth, I just don’t trust that statement coming from our racist, xenophobic government. Luckily our ruling coalition has a minority in the “first room” (similar to senate), so they’re not getting much of their lunacy codified. So how do we curb population growth? Simple, decrease things like expat permits. We don’t have much of a primary or secondary industry anyway, most people work office jobs that don’t strictly require them to be here anyway. However, we have a massive shortage of technicians, or basically anyone with a more practical than scientific degree/certificate, so construction workers, public transport operators, cleaners, etc. What I predict is our government will try to target rather than help that industry because it’d be easy pickings, and our problems will just get that much bigger.

What if the 20.000.000th baby is a twin?

Erdogan won’t be happy