Not personally a fan of compulsory voting. If people don’t want to vote I don’t agree with forcing them to.
If this were to be brought in here it must be accompanied with a standardised None Of The Above option.
But I still don’t like it.
TheDirtyBollox on
They need to properly clean up the electoral register before this could be enforced..
whooo_me on
No.
But if they want to provide a free beer/drink/snacks after anyone votes, I’d vote my ass off.
justformedellin on
No
HintOfMalice on
Rights should include the right not to participate.
A right to vote should include a right to not vote.
A right to have a family should include a right to not have a family.
Otherwise it isn’t a right, it’s a mandate.
BazingaQQ on
No – if you have the right to vote, you have the right to abstain, Fake the fuckers earn your vote.
funglegunk on
Seems like a shallow solution to a much deeper problem.
Shot-Advertising-316 on
No we don’t want to follow Australia’s lead here, people are not obliged to be political – this is overreach which Australia is no stranger to.
Envinyatar20 on
Nah. Register is wrong. But it clearly would make no difference to the result
mrlinkwii on
no we dont
olibum86 on
Don’t think making people who have zero interest in politics to vote is a good idea. We will end up with people getting elected based on how they present themselves or who has the nicest poster it’s stupid beyond belief
DaiserKai on
I think it’s a bad idea, would people abroad have to vote too? Too many Irish “citizens ” in the UK / US on account of us handing out passports, would be ripe for abuse.
senditup on
No. If someone can’t be bothered to vote, why should we care what their opinion is on the matter?
tombolo95 on
Compulsory voting could lead to some candidates taking advantage of uninformed voters. Promise big things and hope that voters don’t look into it too much. They then turn up on the day to vote and see the guy who promised big things and say well, he seems to want to give us the most stuff. I would want more regulation when it comes to social media etc. if it was proposed.
I suppose though, that our system of voting and government wouldn’t really give these individuals too much power if they were elected. Does anyone know if this kind of misinformation is much of a factor in countries with compulsory voting?
TheBatmanIRL on
Maybe try an election on a Saturday and see if that results in a larger turnout.
Is mail in or early voting an option?
Two points I want to make, maybe the incumbents are happy with low turnouts so have no desire to change anything and even if the turnout was larger the result could well be the same.
fdvfava on
The fact that a party leader and her partner couldn’t feasibly vote last week shows something needs to change.
Need to clean up the voter register as well (checking eircodes for duplicates/deaths), which is happening.
Some way for people in hospital or on holiday to vote needs to happen.
D-dog92 on
I’m very curious what effect it would have. But I think Hutch would probably be a TD if we had it for the last election.
daveirl on
Does this system work well in Australia. i.e. Do they have more democracy? Better outcomes? Does people not voting here cause a real issue other than it annoys some people?
Melodic-Chocolate-53 on
No. But they badly need to update voting for people who can’t make a physical polling booth esp at short notice.
If yon’t use your vote, you shouldn’t get to whinge about who gets elected imo.
Important-Sea-7596 on
How about a 100 euro tax credit, only redeemable after voting
Ok_Personality_9662 on
How about getting rid of voting altogether and just selecting random cunts for places in government, like jury service?
earth-while on
No. Compulsory voting gives me the ick. If people don’t want to vote, they won’t vote. I think the reason most don’t is because they dont know who to vote for or think they can activate change.
We need to modernise the voting process and enable more people to vote remotely.
qwerty_1965 on
Compulsory voting is not democratic.
Making voting easier is, every third level institution should have a polling station for a start
Jolly-Feature-6618 on
I’d like to see compulsory voting as long as theres a box you can tick which says you dont think any of the candidates are good enough to vote for instead of a spoiled vote. I’m sure it would be useful statistic and undeniable.
sits79 on
No, sometimes you live constituencies where none of the candidates appeal to you and you’re forced to turn up and spoil your vote.
happyasper on
I remember people in Australia coming in and not even looking at the ballot paper when marking it to avoid a fine. Awful idea.
JX121 on
Yes
PhilD90 on
My only condition is you can’t moan about the government if you didn’t vote.
If you don’t want to vote that’s ok, just don’t give out about anything which your vote could have affected.
Ordinary_Climate5746 on
I think someone else said it. But getting something at the voting station might encourage people to go out. Like a sticker or a treat or something. Like a lil reward for voting.
Revolutionary_Pen190 on
Yes
Logical_News7280 on
Forcing people to vote isn’t democracy
North_Activity_5980 on
There’s alot of other Australian policies that we can adopt that would make society in Ireland a lot better. This isn’t one of them.
jaywastaken on
No.
Practical-Goal-8845 on
When I lived in Canada all my Aussie friends had to vote despite being the other side of the world, I couldn’t even if I’d wanted to.
FFG.. exporting their opposition since 1922.
stevewithcats on
I wonder if it happens in Australia, that people who are forced to vote either spoil their vote or go for a joke candidate?
As a kind of protest vote?
boneheadsa on
Make postal voting much more accessible, even preempt by sending ballots to every individual so they can choose to cast their vote by post say two to three weeks out and up to maybe three days before voting day. If you cast your vote by post, your name is marked out on the register provided to voting stations so you can’t double vote.
Alternatively, just get with the times and allow people to vote through a website or app and cross advertise this on social apps. You’ll have the youth vote in before they’ve finished their first energy drink.
And yeah but what about anonymity with digital voting. The technology and processes are there to at least obfuscate who cast what vote and outside of a core technical team, implement severe penalties for any clown who thinks they should know who voted for who
MarkOSullivan on
Maybe it’d be better looking into the reason why it’s got such a low turnout first
_TheSingularity_ on
There is enough money to invest in a secure electronical voting system like Estonia has for example. That can also bring huge bureaucratic improvements because every citizen will have a very secure way of proofing identity online, so most ID-related processes can be digitalized! It doesn’t just sound convenient, it really is! Imagine being able to e.g. create mortgage and sign for a house all online, or legalizing documents, etc…
svmk1987 on
Honestly the last people you want voting are people who are being forced to vote under the threat of fines.
39 commenti
Not personally a fan of compulsory voting. If people don’t want to vote I don’t agree with forcing them to.
If this were to be brought in here it must be accompanied with a standardised None Of The Above option.
But I still don’t like it.
They need to properly clean up the electoral register before this could be enforced..
No.
But if they want to provide a free beer/drink/snacks after anyone votes, I’d vote my ass off.
No
Rights should include the right not to participate.
A right to vote should include a right to not vote.
A right to have a family should include a right to not have a family.
Otherwise it isn’t a right, it’s a mandate.
No – if you have the right to vote, you have the right to abstain, Fake the fuckers earn your vote.
Seems like a shallow solution to a much deeper problem.
No we don’t want to follow Australia’s lead here, people are not obliged to be political – this is overreach which Australia is no stranger to.
Nah. Register is wrong. But it clearly would make no difference to the result
no we dont
Don’t think making people who have zero interest in politics to vote is a good idea. We will end up with people getting elected based on how they present themselves or who has the nicest poster it’s stupid beyond belief
I think it’s a bad idea, would people abroad have to vote too? Too many Irish “citizens ” in the UK / US on account of us handing out passports, would be ripe for abuse.
No. If someone can’t be bothered to vote, why should we care what their opinion is on the matter?
Compulsory voting could lead to some candidates taking advantage of uninformed voters. Promise big things and hope that voters don’t look into it too much. They then turn up on the day to vote and see the guy who promised big things and say well, he seems to want to give us the most stuff. I would want more regulation when it comes to social media etc. if it was proposed.
I suppose though, that our system of voting and government wouldn’t really give these individuals too much power if they were elected. Does anyone know if this kind of misinformation is much of a factor in countries with compulsory voting?
Maybe try an election on a Saturday and see if that results in a larger turnout.
Is mail in or early voting an option?
Two points I want to make, maybe the incumbents are happy with low turnouts so have no desire to change anything and even if the turnout was larger the result could well be the same.
The fact that a party leader and her partner couldn’t feasibly vote last week shows something needs to change.
Need to clean up the voter register as well (checking eircodes for duplicates/deaths), which is happening.
Some way for people in hospital or on holiday to vote needs to happen.
I’m very curious what effect it would have. But I think Hutch would probably be a TD if we had it for the last election.
Does this system work well in Australia. i.e. Do they have more democracy? Better outcomes? Does people not voting here cause a real issue other than it annoys some people?
No. But they badly need to update voting for people who can’t make a physical polling booth esp at short notice.
If yon’t use your vote, you shouldn’t get to whinge about who gets elected imo.
How about a 100 euro tax credit, only redeemable after voting
How about getting rid of voting altogether and just selecting random cunts for places in government, like jury service?
No. Compulsory voting gives me the ick. If people don’t want to vote, they won’t vote. I think the reason most don’t is because they dont know who to vote for or think they can activate change.
We need to modernise the voting process and enable more people to vote remotely.
Compulsory voting is not democratic.
Making voting easier is, every third level institution should have a polling station for a start
I’d like to see compulsory voting as long as theres a box you can tick which says you dont think any of the candidates are good enough to vote for instead of a spoiled vote. I’m sure it would be useful statistic and undeniable.
No, sometimes you live constituencies where none of the candidates appeal to you and you’re forced to turn up and spoil your vote.
I remember people in Australia coming in and not even looking at the ballot paper when marking it to avoid a fine. Awful idea.
Yes
My only condition is you can’t moan about the government if you didn’t vote.
If you don’t want to vote that’s ok, just don’t give out about anything which your vote could have affected.
I think someone else said it. But getting something at the voting station might encourage people to go out. Like a sticker or a treat or something. Like a lil reward for voting.
Yes
Forcing people to vote isn’t democracy
There’s alot of other Australian policies that we can adopt that would make society in Ireland a lot better. This isn’t one of them.
No.
When I lived in Canada all my Aussie friends had to vote despite being the other side of the world, I couldn’t even if I’d wanted to.
FFG.. exporting their opposition since 1922.
I wonder if it happens in Australia, that people who are forced to vote either spoil their vote or go for a joke candidate?
As a kind of protest vote?
Make postal voting much more accessible, even preempt by sending ballots to every individual so they can choose to cast their vote by post say two to three weeks out and up to maybe three days before voting day. If you cast your vote by post, your name is marked out on the register provided to voting stations so you can’t double vote.
Alternatively, just get with the times and allow people to vote through a website or app and cross advertise this on social apps. You’ll have the youth vote in before they’ve finished their first energy drink.
And yeah but what about anonymity with digital voting. The technology and processes are there to at least obfuscate who cast what vote and outside of a core technical team, implement severe penalties for any clown who thinks they should know who voted for who
Maybe it’d be better looking into the reason why it’s got such a low turnout first
There is enough money to invest in a secure electronical voting system like Estonia has for example. That can also bring huge bureaucratic improvements because every citizen will have a very secure way of proofing identity online, so most ID-related processes can be digitalized! It doesn’t just sound convenient, it really is! Imagine being able to e.g. create mortgage and sign for a house all online, or legalizing documents, etc…
Honestly the last people you want voting are people who are being forced to vote under the threat of fines.