There’s a large part of the explanation or the double price: wages.
mantellaaurantiaca on
And average Italian salaries are ~30% of ours. Your point?
Mesapholis on
Correlation does not imply causation.
You have one metric: cost
and then you go on to measure one thing: life expectancy
that’s just bad statistics-interpretation.
BreakerMorant1864 on
Life expectancy does not necessarily equate to life equality. There are similarities sure, but alongside general economic stability it seems like food and working practices play a huge part in life expectancy
c1u5t3r on
Does this include the money that the patient has to pay directly to the clinic go get treated in a reasonable time frame (to not wait for 6months+ for a life saving surgery)?
ottetihcra on
The thing is, Italy’s public system looks great on paper but it is quite beaurocratic and has generally very long wait times for procedures, depending on their urgency. A lot of people then rely on private hospitals to get their treatments, with higher out of pocket costs. I wonder if this graph takes this aspect into consideration or not.
xDiabolus- on
Ask an Italian about the quality of their healthcare. They might not die due to neglect, but they surely don’t have the same experience as we do.
Traditional_Chart220 on
It’s the olive oil
elgrazo on
i have family in italy, i cant count the amount of times i heard of them having to wait 3-6 months for an appointment or get one earlier but in a hospital 400km away… meanwhile i had things done in the same week…. also salaries…
Ask-For-Sources on
Nothing broken. The Swiss healthcare system provides much better service, covers stuff like mental health care that is basically non-available in Italy and has overall a much higher quality of everything.
There is simply a genetic limit to life expectancy in the average society and other factors such as weather, social culture, food culture..etc. are also playing a huge part in life expectancy.
bimbiheid on
Who pays for Italy’s health system? That might be an illuminating data point.
Book_Dragon_24 on
Again, lifestyle, diet.
The Mediterranean diet has been shown to provide health benefits.
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Things are more expensive in Switzerland.
Doesn’t look too broken in the grand scheme of things. Not perfect for sure, but we are lucky with such a health system when compared to others.
Yeah, how can it be that we don’t live twice as long?
In Italy, a nurse is paid about $55,000 per year, in Switzerland about$110,000 per year.
[https://nurse.org/articles/highest-paying-countries-for-nurses/](https://nurse.org/articles/highest-paying-countries-for-nurses/)
There’s a large part of the explanation or the double price: wages.
And average Italian salaries are ~30% of ours. Your point?
Correlation does not imply causation.
You have one metric: cost
and then you go on to measure one thing: life expectancy
that’s just bad statistics-interpretation.
Life expectancy does not necessarily equate to life equality. There are similarities sure, but alongside general economic stability it seems like food and working practices play a huge part in life expectancy
Does this include the money that the patient has to pay directly to the clinic go get treated in a reasonable time frame (to not wait for 6months+ for a life saving surgery)?
The thing is, Italy’s public system looks great on paper but it is quite beaurocratic and has generally very long wait times for procedures, depending on their urgency. A lot of people then rely on private hospitals to get their treatments, with higher out of pocket costs. I wonder if this graph takes this aspect into consideration or not.
Ask an Italian about the quality of their healthcare. They might not die due to neglect, but they surely don’t have the same experience as we do.
It’s the olive oil
i have family in italy, i cant count the amount of times i heard of them having to wait 3-6 months for an appointment or get one earlier but in a hospital 400km away… meanwhile i had things done in the same week…. also salaries…
Nothing broken. The Swiss healthcare system provides much better service, covers stuff like mental health care that is basically non-available in Italy and has overall a much higher quality of everything.
There is simply a genetic limit to life expectancy in the average society and other factors such as weather, social culture, food culture..etc. are also playing a huge part in life expectancy.
Who pays for Italy’s health system? That might be an illuminating data point.
Again, lifestyle, diet.
The Mediterranean diet has been shown to provide health benefits.