Costruiscine alcuni fuori da ogni città e paese dell’Irlanda, fornisci loro ottimi collegamenti di trasporto pubblico e boom, crisi immobiliare risolta.
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di chiggymondo
Costruiscine alcuni fuori da ogni città e paese dell’Irlanda, fornisci loro ottimi collegamenti di trasporto pubblico e boom, crisi immobiliare risolta.
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Or, we could build high rise mixed use developments in city centre locations replacing all the empty/derelict ones that are currently in our city centres revitalising our cities and not creating transport infrastructure nightmares or future slum blocks
Queue the people who want to poke a hole in every suggestion.
Then also say you’re a useless shite because you have no solutions, just complaints.
High density (this doesn’t even look that high) doesn’t have to be Ballymun. That was fucked from the start, planners didn’t know or didn’t care about anything else a community needs.
Adamstown isn’t a bad outcome for being the first planned “New Town” in what, 50 years? It too was given nothing but grief and synicism at the start.
Is that not basically cherrywood ?
That’s pretty much what’s happening already? Examples – cherrywood, sandyford, Tallaght
This is more or less the philosophy behind a number of new towns that we’ve built or are building. Clonburris, Clongriffin, Cherrywood and Adamstown in Dublin; Carrigtwohill West and Waterrock in Cork. We’ve longer term plans for a number of other ones like Monard near Cork, or Lissenhall north of Swords.
110%. The greenfield sites around the M50, Kylemore, Ballymount, Saggart the areas leading to the airport, could all easily be developed for high rise basis apartments. Tokyo has 35 million people living in an area the size of greater Dublin with no housing crisis
wouldn’t even have to be outside the town that much, in Dublin’s case.
[https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1d-8gUHxh3GUJUYYjhpEqRT68Jd4&usp=sharing](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1d-8gUHxh3GUJUYYjhpEqRT68Jd4&usp=sharing)
But then how would people profit off the housing crisis? It’s not being fixed because they have no interest in fixing it.
Ireland is full of land, if they let modular homes be built on private land this crisis would be over within 6 months. Instead, they have the council fluting around with drones to checking rural private land to make sure people haven’t built homes for themselves.
That’s the job.
I don’t think lack of ideas is the reason the housing crisis persists. We also have the money. It’s about the obstacles in getting even the simplest of things approved. No one wants to compromise their heaven.
This can’t be done overnight lad
Ideally fast tram systems between them and the city, or trains, the solution is always more trains.
They’re disgusting, and I don’t want to live in an Ireland that looks like 1970’s USSR.
Coukdnt agree more
The CSO recorded plenty of empty homes, many empty for a significant amount of time.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cpp2/censusofpopulation2022profile2-housinginireland/vacantdwellings/
Plus, covid proved that huge numbers of people do not need to physically attend work. Lots of office workers can feasibly work from all over the country from home, reducing the need for office space near cities (one of the reasons given for why these homes aren’t suitable) as well as excessive commutes every day. The benefits to the work / life balance of people would overall improve the health and well being of the population. Maybe even saving the HSE money to spend elsewhere.
If there is less need for the long commutes, people can spread out over a wider part of the country, bringing businesses and facilities to small towns that are currently lacking due to low demand.
But instead, businesses forced a load of people back into the office, presumably to justify the cost of that office space.
Cities are becoming all office blocks and hotels. There are folks who physically need to attend work, surely they should be prioritised to live nearby?
I dunno, they’ve been going on about decentralising as long as I remember, we have the means to do so, why the hell aren’t we using them?
My God, you’re a genius
Maybe not outside my town, definitely the others though
Our current planning set up allows for developments like these to be held up for years, unfortunately.
Implement the transport early in the building process, make sure that transport runs 24hrs and has the capacity needed, make sure that all the other infrastructure like child care, medical, social, shopping etc are put in early and scales with the population. All that done and I’m totally on board.
But but but… I fear being overlooked
And boom, you’ve got another ballymun towers shituation when they economy goes to shit and all those services are reduced or cancelled
It would start up as “We are going to build 10,000 affordable apartments” and within a year it would be “1,000 luxury flats” – whoops we forgot about the poor.
Looks like communist Eastern Europe. They look terrible, no thanks
We need to build, and build at speed, and frankly the situation is so severe that some of other wants/desires when it comes to housing may have to be forgone. That said I think we can do better than the sort of eastern block blocks depicted above. We should consider what Barcelona did over a century ago, with its enormous expansion of the city Exiample. Picture below:
https://preview.redd.it/rwya0t13716e1.png?width=2362&format=png&auto=webp&s=da66b419846dbf7218d60692c737be0e4bb04e39
From above this may seem quite dense and rigidly gridy, but anyone who has ever been there knows what a wonderful part of the city is, and some of the most desirable as well. It would be very connectable to public transport, with out huge outlay, very quickly in the forms of busses. We should use model plans and make the buildings as repeatable (though with character) as possible to ensure we can get it done as hastily as possible. The choice doesn’t have to be between endless single family homes eating up more and more of the countryside, or bleak towers isolated on the outskirts of motorways. There is an alternative.
For these to be successful they need to come with:
– decent size / underground parking
– a primary care centre
– a sports centre
– shops
– a creche
– primary and secondary schools
– FUNCTIONAL POLICING (can’t stress this enough)
– transport links
Combine all of above and then you get a shot at it.
We did this before. It’s called Ballymun. It was never finished, under-resourced, and developed into one of the worst slums in western Europe at the end of the 20th century. Fianna Fáil oversaw the whole thing. Do you think they’re much better equipped now to do it any better?
I won’t name it because it’s not fair on young families/professionals that have bought there but there is a very large housing development in Dublin that has 1000s of dwellings, and more being built, and I genuinely think it is going to be one of the worst parts of the country to live in in, 10/15 years. They have fuck all amenities, and can’t even get the access to public transport sorted.
Or boom ballymun 2.0