Mi spiace, non sono riuscito a inserirlo nel post originale.
1a foto: tutte le vecchie lampadine che gli elettricisti hanno smontato
2a foto: le lampadine come erano nell’attacco, scusate è un po’ sfocata come era la foto scattata dall’elettricista (possono fare foto a nostra insaputa nel nostro appartamento?)
3a foto) nuova lampadina installata
Grazie
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di strangercreature
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Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/s/3eMUgGvOOr
If i understand right.
An electrician come at your house, replaced old lamps sockets and bulb by new ceiling lights and asked 700 CHF for the whole work (materials and working time) ?
How much time he spent in your flat and what is ceiling lights model ?
700 CHF seem expensive but can be ok in function of the amount of work.
Noooooo 😨 Those are like the cheapest fixtures that go into cheap housing in the US. Did they really end up charging you 130 for each fixture?
https://www.galaxus.ch/en/s14/product/z-licht-blanco-led-light-zff-40w-3750lm-4000k-3750-lm-wall-lamps-ceiling-lamps-39626508
First picture shows what looks like E27 lightbulbs screwed into simple E27 fittings/sockets that are commonly used during construction or for apartment handovers („Baulampenfassung“). The bulbs are likely of the extra-warm-white (2700K) or warm white (3000K) color.
Second picture shows as far as i can see this temporary socket/fitting and the bulb in it mounted on the ceiling. There is wires sticking out and/or touchable on the socket, which is a potential electrocution hazard (and not up to the Swiss electrical code)
Third picture shows a ceiling light fixture, potentially of the „neutral white“ (4000K) light color.
Now, my guess is this: Construction company or previous tenant left these bulb sockets in (and landlord was nice and also left them in) to make it easier for the next tenant (OP) to have some light (or at least fixtures) during handover or on moving day. These were never intended to be used for 9 years, but only until the tenant buys and installs (or pays someone to do it for him) his own fixtures.
Swiss apartments don‘t usually come with light sockets/fixtures (except maybe in bathrooms/kitchens). Now, legally one could theoretically argue that because the landlord provided these sockets, he is responsible for them and their safety. But that might require some proof that they were already there when OP moved in (e.g. are they listed in the handover protocol?).
Also, for most Swiss people IMHO it is kinda obvious that this was just a temporary thing until the tenant puts his own fittings. So, personally, I‘d not go after the landlord for paying for the new fixtures, as then we still have the issue that the electrician was (as far as i understand) not contracted by the landlord for that installation. Maybe the tenants electrician also just asked the landlord „tenant wants his own fittings, is it OK if i toss your temporary fittings“? Which is not a conclusive agreement from the landlord to pay for these new fittings.
Now, in regards to the electrician: He was (by the safety standard and Swiss electrical code) right in pointing out that the temporary fittings should be replaced. What was agreeed between OP and the electrician is still not entirely clear, but i‘d at the very least complain that the new light fittings (that i‘m paying for) are the wrong color (Kelvins K) and maybe also too bright/dim (Lumens lm) compared to the old lamps. You can look at the old bulbs, they usually have the K and lm printed on them. Same should go for the new fitting (if it has LED built in).
But maybe – depending on type of fitting – OP can also open the cover and install his own (less bright/white) bulbs again into the new fitting.
Hope this helps.
This post provides an incredible amount of back story to the original one and goes to show the importance of context.
It boggles my mind that anybody in their right mind would live in an apartment with temporary bulbs hanging from the ceiling directly from the electrical leads and not bat an eye. The sockets are even covered in plaster from when the ceiling was originally done, for heaven’s sake.
“new light bulb” lol – that thing is called a lamp. You could have installed one you like yourself instead of living for years with temporary bulbs from contruction like some savage lmao.
Wtf? You lived with temporary lights? Why didn’t you install normal lamps by yourself? Anybody is allowed to do that – no electrician required.
And, well, 130 CHF for the proper lamps on the 3rd picture? Honestly: not that bad, considering, that it also contains the work the “specialist” (electrician) needs to do.
And, another “well”, why did the electrician actually care? Although it’s highly unusual to live with just temporary light bulbs, there’s nothing wrong with that. If you like this design, then so be it. Or did you ask them to install proper lights?
Those are construction bulbs/ renovation bulbs. Don’t tell me you used them year after year. They aren’t dangerous, but they look awful.
You lived 9 years like that without ever thinking “let’s just go to Obi and get a lamp”? That’s just crazy
This light is so depressing. Reminds me of early hours in December at the school when it’s still dark outsidse and I sit half-asleep in the classroom being blinded by such light.
In these two posts the: A) Lack of any semblance of taste, B) Total lack of personal agency, and C) Total lack of knowledge in the most basic of household maintenance is truly mind blowing
That first picture is hilarious