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    1. EastClintwoods on

      Like in many other places, it feels as though the world is no longer a safe or welcoming place to raise children anymore. And too damn expensive also.

    2. HonestlyGurlSlay on

      “Fertility could also increase without a change in people’s behavior, if we have more women of childbearing age.”

      That sounds so fucking sinister.

    3. Unlucky_Civilian on

      In Czechia this year there will be the lowest amount of births since 1785

    4. Russians are going to replace indigenous baltic populations at this point as they’re more fertile and less likely to
      move out.

      Although Russia is gonna be a muslim majority country in 100 years. So the demographics of eastern europe is gonna change completely

      we’re all going to live under conservative values whether we want it
      or not. Europe is eventually gonna be majority Muslim

      enjoy golden age of women and lgbt rights while it lasts

    5. NightSalut on

      Something not said in the article or elsewhere where this issue in Estonia gets brought up is following:

      When Estonia restored its independence, the years 87-89 had been one of the biggest baby boom years in Estonian recorded history. Then 1990-91 still had some leftover effects, but by mid-90s, I believe the number of children born dropped by half.

      So within  decade or less, the number of births dropped from around 24-25K to 12-14K and it stayed pretty low like that until maternity leave and pay was introduced. 

      The people having first kids today are the ones who were born in mid-90s and later, pre-maternity leave and pay introduction. Previously those were the years with lowest births. 

      The number of kids born in the 90s was already low and the number of parents now having kids is low too. They would have to have abnormally 3-4 kids each couple just to offset this issue.

      Now add high cost of living, very high cost of acquiring a property to live on per Estonian incomes for most people and our big neighbor with the desire to seemingly kill everyone nearby their borders and you get why people don’t have kids. 

      Statistically, Estonian families desire to have 3 kids. But they have 1, maybe 2. Mostly because they cannot buy a property to live on that’s large enough and wages are low for most people. And the services you get for kids when you need help or assistance with disabilities etc., is very much dependent on if you can pay for it or not out of pocket. So that makes lots of people very cautious. 

    6. Any-Original-6113 on

      It’s a good reason to welcome Ukrainian women into the country. Judging by the methods mentioned in the article

    7. MinecraftWarden06 on

      Time to ban posts about this cuz it’s getting out of control

    8. I hate how everyone just goes on about the economy and not being able to afford the family when there’s equally guilty social factors at play. Sure the economy is awful everywhere, but fixing that won’t solve anything.

      First there’s the major loneliness epidemic and people not knowing how to form relationships (I’m very much guilty of that, and probably why it annoys me so much when people only go on about couples not being able to afford kids). You could have a vast majority of your population be millionaires by their mid-20s, afford a spacious house for a family and even be able to support a stay at-home partner, and that still doesn’t change the fact that it takes two to tango.

      Then there’s just less of that social pressure to have kids either, women in particular don’t want to put their careers on hold, etc.

      No amount of government handouts or tax breaks, and no amount of making the economy unbearable for single people will fix all of the piling on social factors.

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