La Danimarca ha inviato messaggi privati al team Trump sulla Groenlandia
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/11/denmark-response-trump-greenland-threat
di Surenas1
La Danimarca ha inviato messaggi privati al team Trump sulla Groenlandia
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/11/denmark-response-trump-greenland-threat
di Surenas1
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Epstein’s island is compromised he just looking for a new island.
> The Danish government wants to convince Trump, including through the messages passed to his advisers this week, that his security concerns can be addressed without claiming Greenland for the U.S.
>increasing the U.S. military presence on the island, two sources with knowledge of the issue tell Axios.
I mean, the problem with this stuff is what’s in this for the US?
This is basically saying “American taxpayers can spend more to defend a territory that isn’t theirs”.
European leaders still haven’t smelled the coffee.
They think this is about Trump and don’t understand that the historical context out of WW2, and American’s wealth and prosperity since then, plus the dangers of the Soviet Union, meant Europe could free ride America – from defense to drug innovation.
But this sort of arrangement makes no sense from the US perspective.
If they’re going to be in charge of defending Greenland, why won’t they simply buy it from the current inhabitants?
Pathetic
Denmark acting like the vassal state it is.
It deserves every humiliation it receives from the Americans.
The downvotes are expected in a continental sub whose individual states have forwarded themselves as mere subjects for the yanks.
No honor or strength left in Europe whatsoever. Getting humiliated by every strong actor on the world stage.
From what I understand, there used to be multiple US military bases in Greenland during the Cold War. However, they were very expensive to run and when the Soviet Union dissolved, there wasn’t much of a need for them. As global warming melts the Arctic ice, new sea lanes are opening up in the far north, creating a new frontline between America and a rising China. The remilitarization of Greenland makes plenty of sense. Yet that’s just one piece of a larger puzzle.
Some have called American an empire in all but name. Since the end of World War II, if you count the numerous American military bases around the world, the American led international economic system and the attempts in the postwar era to manipulate or alter foreign governments to America’s advantage, it’s not hard to argue that America is a modern empire. The threats of invasion of not just Greenland, but also Panama, as well as the threat of annexing Canada, sounds like an imperialist agenda for a new kind of Monroe Doctrine and a desire for greater direct control of America’s neighbors and geopolitical assets.
If Europe wants to remain a junior partner in the American led international order, it seems like they’ll have to pay a price. But if that seems unpalatable, the cost for Europe to go alone, without the protection of America’s military or the benefit of good economic relations with the American market, or to partner up with another large power like China, may be even more costly. I’m reminded of Brexit and how the UK desired to be free of the European Union, but going it alone doesn’t seem to have immediately made the UK more prosperous.
I’m so fucking disappointed by our government on this. We should have ordered all US military bases closed and off our soil, and told them to kick dirt until we got assurance that no military intervention would take place. The dumb cunts.
Art of the deal
Is Greenland some new messaging app?
Private messages read: “what did you just fucking say to me!? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class, etc etc …”
I believe Trump might actually be playing a stupid fascist wannabe this time. For the US it would be a catastrophe if the Greenland independence movement gets dominated by “interest agents” tied to Russia or China. Well, it be such a win for these bad actors we can assume they will try.
This could be the USA actually making it extremely clear that this will not be allowed. “If you want independence, it’s by being tied to the US” kinda deal. Kinda a modern Monroe doctrine.
*One European diplomat told Axios that Denmark is widely seen as one of the closest allies of the U.S. within the EU, and no one could have imagined it would be the first country with which Trump would pick a fight.*
This alone shows the real danger Trump is.
Trump is genuinely dangerous, and I think the US is really beyond help. The EU should be willing and ready to take an adversarial stance to the USA not unlike the USA’s relationship with China. Personally, I think it would be a good outcome to see the USA balkanise, as the fragments would be less destabilising on the global stage and be easier to deal with.
This is just being exactly what Trump wanted.
His playbook kinda worked the same since the start.
1: Say something completly crazy and make everyone panic
2: Give contradicting info to make everyone unsure what he really wants.
3: Someone makes an offer that seems very agreeable compared to his initial statement.
4: Trump gets a win and gets away with his bullshit yet again.
In this case particulary. He says a crazy thing about invading or buying Greenland, he refuses to elaborate. Denmark panics and suddenly immediatly throws themselves at him basically giving him exactly what he wants, and he’s not even president yet.
I hate that we have 4 years now where this madness will continue.
In ten years we will be buying Greenland’s gas from USA.
JFC people. Haven’t you learned anything from his last term. This guy is hungry for attention. His addicted to it. He will say a lot of stupid shit just to remain in the spotlight. And media loves him because he drives the traffic and ad dollars. Compared to him Biden was just an boring old man who took his job seriously and haven’t given them much to write about. Trump is a one man Circus. He gets the spotlight while the Project 2025 people work in the back to make their Christian Theocracy wet dream a reality. Look at the cases that are going up to the Supreme Court or the things that will be on next congress agenda. Those are the things we should worry about.
Trump is playing Monopoly with Putin, Xi and Musk.
What is the Danish equivalent of “Go fuck yourself, you wanker”, as I hope that was the message :)))
It’s not about security.. it’s about $$$
Turns out Europoors would rather chose to be part of the US when given the opportunity