Decine di migliaia protestano nella capitale della Romania contro l’annullamento della corsa presidenziale
https://apnews.com/article/romania-protest-presidential-election-bucharest-calin-georgescu-9a2b2efac1a614e16b077bd2a1bc500c
di djcenturion
Decine di migliaia protestano nella capitale della Romania contro l’annullamento della corsa presidenziale
https://apnews.com/article/romania-protest-presidential-election-bucharest-calin-georgescu-9a2b2efac1a614e16b077bd2a1bc500c
di djcenturion
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I hope the Associated Press is a good enough source for you, considering they reported ‘tens of thousands’ were involved. If even AP suggests such numbers, it’s safe to estimate the actual figure was closer to 50K-100K. The fact that you downvoted my previous post only highlights a misunderstanding of constructive dialogue and democracy.
Not a single EU flag in sight. ((But we are not against EU & NATO))
Useful idiots doing russia’s work.. for free.
Whatever you think of that, it was a fiasco. I am happy for Romanians who avoided a potential disaster, but this is going to be so abused by the right wingers, and it might be a pyrric victory. Someone like him shouldnt have been allowed to run in the first place, after the results of a first round its a lose-lose scenario
No matter who you support in the Romanian election, the court’s unprecedented decision to annul the election after initially allowing it and declaring the second one valid raises serious legal and ethical concerns. It’s been more than a month, and no evidence has been presented to justify this action. Such a move undermines democratic principles and sets a dangerous precedent. Transparency and accountability are essential in any democracy, and this situation demands answers.
Not tens of thousands, more like 6-8 thousand and they are in support of extremist right wing parties that talk about leaving the EU and NATO. Not few, but not tens of thousands.
The elections were a disaster that showed our government’s incompetence, but I am not willing to burn down the house because of that. Fuck all the charlatans that want to take advantage of that.
Edit: Here’s one example of a news outlet reporting this event: [https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate/recomandarile-jandarmilor-pentru-participantii-la-protestul-aur-mitingul-a-fost-anuntat-pentru-ora-14-00-3076791](https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate/recomandarile-jandarmilor-pentru-participantii-la-protestul-aur-mitingul-a-fost-anuntat-pentru-ora-14-00-3076791)
Saying tens of thousands has a nice ring to it, but does not express reality. It’s taking what the AUR party declared that “over 30k people will be protesting” and what its leader Simion said “over 50k will come” and saying it as fact. When you say x people are protesting, people assume there that many for a few hours protesting and not how many people circulated that area throughout the day or how many bus tickets were bought by the party to bring people there. This is called misinformation and I am being generous by not calling it disinformation. I know some of the sympathizers want to believe the bullshit that AUR and Georgescu are promising, so they spread it themselves, because they are tired of the government’s bullshit.
At most 10-15k.
> George Simion, the leader of the far-right Alliance for the Unity of Romanians, said at the protest on Sunday, “We are protesting against the coup d’état that took place on Dec. 6.
> “We are sorry to discover so late that we were living in a lie and that we were led by people who claimed to be democrats, but are not at all,” Simion, whose party organized the protest on Sunday, told reporters. “We demand a return to democracy through the resumption of elections, starting with the second round.”
Does this buffon Simion realizes that if the elections resume at 2nd round, he can’t win because Georgescu got more votes lmao.
Those are retards. Romanian here. The untermesch
How to cut off your nose to spite your face
Was Sosoaca sporting her Bane outfit again or did she change her attire for the occasion? Something more brownish, perhaps?
lol, there is maybe 500 people
Useful idiots. Downvoted, don’t give them any attention.
We MUST vote until we get the preferred result. Everything else is false.
10s of thousands protesting for one side? Totally natural.
10s of thousands protesting for the other side? Obviously manipulated, uneducated fools.
Besides they’re not 10s of thousands, dont’t listen to that AP fake news, they’re obviously russia trolls.
Did I do well, reddit?
There will be a new election, right? So what’s the problem then, they’ll get a new opportunity to vote for their Russian idiot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskBalkans/s/20B7seqt2u
The video with Romanians protesting today for their rights! For those who are still saying that Romanians are manipulated by Russian influences, how dare you, to insult all the Romanians who were protesting today?
Guys at this point I don’t even care. I am Romanian, maybe soon I’ll die because of cancer or run over by an incompetent driver. I don’t even care, I work, I have a good pay job, I ignore the people around me who are talking about politics, I look at the ones who seem worth my vote, I vote for them and carry on surviving another day in this rock we call Earth
Outsider perspective, very limited knowledge in Romanian politics. It looked un democratic that an election got annulled because the candidate that got the most votes is unliked by the people in power. It looked sketchy
People who are against democracy using their democratic right. Wish we could lock all of them up.
“decision to annul the elections cited the illegal use of digital technologies including artificial intelligence, as well as the use of “undeclared sources” of funding.”
This is the problem. And I pointed it out immediately back then, that the authorities need to be fucking good at explaining exactly why they cancelled the election, exactly what crimes took place, or it will be a shitshow.
They have not. If there were serious crimes, who is in prison for them right now? (I am ready to learn)
“Tens of thousands protested in Romania’s capital on Sunday ”
No proof provided for this, maybe there were, but probably not. AP slipping.
Either way, unlikely KG or Simion will be allowed to run again.
Not that the average Romanian actually cares about the elections ( sub 50% turnout, sub 30% in the diaspora ).
Big nothingburger.
next breaking bad EU member?
They should be given a fair choice: Jail or go to Russia to serve their lord. It’s simple as that. Europe is at war with Russia, even if not declared (I wonder why not, it’s past time). Putin wants to destroy democracy and Europe as a whole and… European leaders are just allowing it to happen! Do you want to work for Putin? Go to Russia and be happy. But don’t expect to enjoy the benefits of democracy while trying to destroy it. The same goes for the nazis of AfD, Orbán lovers, etc…
Usa controling UE controling Romania elections, and people say we are not conolized yet.
common pattern: in order to save it, kill democracy in the first place. We need a better approach to deal with populism and alleged misinformation
that’s like 10k tops, brought from outside the capital with 100 buses
Tens of thousands is a huge strech. A few hundreds.
All of them together have 11 classes.
>Tens of thousands
There were at most 10k.
No. You just have to actively investigate the interference and at least make it so it is all above the board. There are crimes happening that are not investigated and if they are, pro russian forces are not even getting slap on hands. They need to serve hard time. We have actualy caught a Russian spy and our stupid courts just have him a conditional time served. Sorry for this kind of thing if it was me gibon that sentencia it would be 10 years at the very least.
For all the non-Romanian out here.
Here is a brief timeline.
Elections on 24th of November. Most votes were casted to Călin Georgescu, less than 23% of total votes, this guy claims to have spent 0 and I literally mean 0 money on his campaign. Despite his claims the whole country was filled with posters with him, all posts on social media had coments promoting him( and I mean all social media posts, even those who had nothing to do with politics ). There were thousands upon thousands of TikTok videos promoting him, even though he was basically a nobody knew him 2 weeks before the election.
On the 6th of December the Constitutional Court annulled the 2nd round of elections after informations alluding to foreign interference were declassified.
Minor protests took place after New Year’s Eve, barely a few dozens, sometimes hundreds. Today 12.01.2025, AUR the second largest parliamentary party brought their supporters to protest with busses from all over the country (some say they were paid to attend, not sure about that but in some cases the bus trip was paid by the organizers). The number of actual people in the streets varies by source, AUR claims 100k people, that number is far from the truth. At the most( and I am being generous here ) 20k maybe 30k but that is a stretch.
Now, let’s talk about Georgescu (the “nationalist”). His past is at least sketchy. During communism he was sent to UK and USA to “study” (those unfamiliar with Romania communism period, you have to understand that only party officials, son/daughter of party officials or Securitate people were sent abroad). After communism fell he was part of the most corrupt governments, he was not an elected official more like a high ranking bureaucrat (not possible without political backing). He presents himself as against the system but he comes from the deepest parts of the swamp.
He is a fan of the Iron Guard Movement(fascist movement from the 1920-1940, responsible for killing thousands). He admires Putin and he called him “one of the last true leaders”. At the beginning of the war he tried to imply that there is no war in Ukraine, asking journalists rhetorical questions like “Have you been there, have you seen it with your own eyes?”. He also despises NATO/EU, he called the anti-rocket system at Deveselu a “diplomatic embarrassment”, and was overjoyed 2 years ago when Romania was denied entry to Schenghen.
He is not a sovereignist, he is not another emulation of Trump or even PIS in Poland, he is a Trojan Horse meant to take us out of EU/Nato. In my eyes his is a traitor.
Many people in Romania don’t understand whether it was a pro-Simion protest(another pro Russia politician), a pro-Ceaușescu dictatorship protest, or a pro-democracy protest. Many protesters climbed statues and did Tik Tok live streams. They arrived in Bucharest organized by one of the extremist parties, with buses. We don’t know if it was a party rally or a protest. Also, this kind of rally was organized before, and people were paid to participate in these events. People who attend such rallies are generally poor or have very low levels of education. I saw a picture with a guy who’s wearing a T-shirt with Romania’s dictator, Ceaușescu, and Kremlin Georgescu. The message on his shirt was “Ceaușescu is coming back”.
How the media and this sub would be if elections were annulled the other way round. I mean there’s been civil wars and revolutions over less. This time, it’s all good. Here’s a reality check for you guys. Foreign manipulation is everywhere. Even for the centrist pro EU pro NATO pro Zionist free trade parties that you all suck dick for.
Context: Besides the problem of Russian interference, Georgescu had a blatantly illegal campaign in which he failed to declare campaign expenses, failed to declare campaign materials as such, and continued the campaign past the legally required end date. Breaking laws have consequences, that’s why people bothered making them laws.
The elections were not cancelled, merely restarted; they’re scheduled in May this year.
I’d be surprised if Georgescu wasn’t criminally charged by then, let alone being allowed to run again, but then again I was surprised a nobody like him got more than a thousand votes in the first place. If he *is* allowed to run again, people can just vote for him in May. There’s really nothing worth protesting about.