Solo il 21% degli europei afferma di considerare gli Stati Uniti un alleato
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Solo il 21% degli europei afferma di considerare gli Stati Uniti un alleato
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di EUstrongerthanUS
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Be interesting to see how it varies by country
^[source](https://ecfr.eu/publication/alone-in-a-trumpian-world-the-eu-and-global-public-opinion-after-the-us-elections/)
Not enough Europeans who recognize the US as a rival
I think it’s more concerning that a quarter of Europeans think that Russia is a partner/ally
India seems to love Trump. Guess it’s because of Modi…
While the US has engaged in multiple questionable actions over the decades, I would trust the US more than I would trust the other countries (Turkey, China, India, Russia).
At this point, that seems fair tbh.
I’ve always considered them an ally, but Trump is doing an amazing job on changing that.
I would be curious to see what Americans think about Europeans because their actions tell us they see Europe as Competition.
The poll was conducted 20Nov-4Dec. I’d expect both the “ally” and the “necessary partner” numbers to have fallen since then, while the “rival” and “adversary” numbers have increased. Unfortunate that the world is unstable enough that such recent poll already feels somewhat outdated.
“only” 21%?
Why “only”? I’m surprised that it’s still that high.
Well, kinda difficult to choose ‘an ally who shares our values’ when in the last couple years they’ve degenerated so drastically.
I feel like only even taking the abortion ban into account already stops that option from being considered by most people from most European countries.
That’s less than Russians who say that of Chinese and vice versa. I think it’s one of the most startling results in this latest global ECFR poll.
I think it comes down to a perceived imbalance in power dynamics. What we need is a relationship of equals. That requires hard power.
When all of our forces—including those in Ukraine—are integrated, the EU will rank as the world’s second-largest military power. That would end the reliance on Washington and create an equal, more respectful relationship.
opportunists deserve opportunism
is it russian/china propaganda trying to divide the west?
The wild thing about this is that most people have no idea the shit America did in Europe like coups, murders and whole fascist networks, and think it was contained to south america, asia and africa. Yet, they still don’t trust america
I mean, it is still by far the highest ranking country on this list, so I wouldn’t worry too much.
Non of these are mutually exclusive and can differ depending on topic. Politics is not that simple.
We should be strengthening ties with China to avoid being sandwiched by Russia and the US.
Give it 1-6 months
Let’s hope that in the end of the 4 years, USA does not get to have similar data as China or Russia.
IMO there’s never anything beyond a necessary partner in geopolitics. That’s as good as it gets. I mean FFS there aren’t even real alliances in internal politics, let alone foreign ones.
Europeans: WTF is India to us?
USA is both necessary partner and rival for the EU at this point.
Soon, it could be just rival.
They’re no ally tbf
They always have their own interests, they don’t care about Europe. Nor should we care about them.
US has no allies. Only interests.
Russia has no allies, only puppets.
Do people here not realize how the US is by far the most valuable ally European nations have? Without their inordinate spending on ‘defense’, which dwarfs all our ours combined, they are the only reason half us of don’t speak Russian.
They are also the only true rival that China has for economic hegemony in the coming age. While we have crippled our economies with our well meaning but disastrous energy and demographic policies, the US keeps growing.
I’m from Spain, and have lived in 8 countries including the US, UK and Switzerland before anyone accuses me of a shallow world view.
Because the US serves only the US. Especially with Trump in charge now. Ally is someone you can repy on who has your best interest in mind, not just their own.
That’s not the USA anymore.
Trump threatens allies more than authoritarian leaders (enemies of the us)
Given the next president I’m surprised there’s even 21% who still see the US as an ally “that shares our interests and values”.
People not considering US an ally is hardly a surprise. They bully others to adopt whatever policies suits their fancy and regularly renege on promises it’s previously made. It acts like a bipolar schizophrenic, given how often the next president is hellbent on sabotaging any policies made by the last administration.
India should consider US as an employer…
My dude, this is next level bsht: Using a manipulative title with the picture thats putting into proper context…
ONLY 21% of Europeans, but shows having the same question with same 5 options as response it’s 5 times than the second best (which is not that hard to figure out why since it’s Turkey) and also the positives responses put together are overwhelming majority.
I wonder what this would look like before 2016
I’m an Indian and this is what I have been observing
Thanks to all the anti American propaganda on social media platforms like Reddit , Europeans have developed hate towards actual allies and are now thinking of Rus sia as a friendly country
21% of the people understand the principle of might is right. If we were dependent on, for example Russia, we wouldn’t have this kind of economic prosperity. Because why would they want to share some of the pie with other nations?
It’s true. Americans are very different to us, politically and culturally
Yeah considering they’re about to snatch Greenland from Denmark, expect that number to drop
The Chinese threat is viewed too positively imo.
Turkey’s score is quite high, well there is a difference between reddit and the normal world after all.
Btw which Europeans?
This seems extremely politically driven to me as someone who works in Eastern Europe bidding on government contracts. As I type the US is investing billions of dollars in the defense of Europe, doing more than any other European country does to aid things here. The group of firms I work with are bidding for contracts with a combined worth of $500 million in the coming months. That’s just a handful of projects.
Its insane to me that anyone in Europe can see the US as anything but an ally. The defensive security protection, training, assistance, and investment from the US over the last 70 years in Europe has helped us prosper in a way that changed the trajectory of the continent and helped us thrive. I can’t imagine what Europe would look like if we would have had to defend ourselves against a hostile world alone, while also trying to enjoy the same standard of living we enjoy today.
It seems to me that most successful Russian propaganda of the last 20 years is the idea that the US and Europe are not allies that share the same interests.
TIL Europeans are dummies.