Got this situation yesterday. Wondering if the are any rules in Switzerland. This being Switzerland š
At a highway intersection (as shown in the picture) . My “favourite a15 to a3” , both cars are driving parallel at the same speed. The left car is trying to move right to enter the a3 ramp, while the right car is trying to move left to merge onto the a15. Both started signaling at the same time. Who has the right of way, and how should this be handled? One car will need to break to let the other car through.
Thank you.
StackOfCookies on
Not sure if there are official rules for this but Iād say 99% of people would let the car on the left go first, since letting the left lane overtake is what everyone is more used to.Ā
One_Macaron_3866 on
āOne car needs to breakā what a tragedy š¤£
Leaving the joke aside I donāt know if thereās any rule, I think itās at small agreement
alexs77 on
I’d say, that the red car would have the right of way, as they are coming from a straight road and might thus be faster, or more dangerous (faster).
Additionally, the red car would be to the left of the blue one and that would mean, that they are overtaking (generally speaking).
That’s how I’d see it. No idea what regulations say.
anno2376 on
No one. Everyone will stay on his lane till someone use his brain to act smart
OriginalSpiritual196 on
They definitely do not cross at the same time: in the picture the one wanting to cross has to give way to the one driving on straight.
ReyalpybguR on
The straight part between the exits is normal highway, so I would say the car on the left overtakesĀ
JoelAraujo on
That seems to me a situation where both have the same priority. Since the red and blue want to shift lane, at the same time, both need to decide in a defensive way to not provoke an accident or dangerous manoeuvres. One needs to brake and other to accelerate.
Itās wise and recommended to have a defensive driving, so if that situation happens the appropriate approach is to signal the intention to change lane and reduce speed
Old_Statistician2749 on
Is this next to IKEA in Bern š. I hate this section of road
Sin317 on
Blue has to give way to red when merging.
There, problem solved.
Zhaicew on
If you’re coming from the ramp, you are slower, let the left lane take over. The guy behind left lane car should notice situation and slow down to let you merge.
Only on Swiss roads this kind of situation seems to be complicated because it requires a display of **courtesy** from the drivers. Seriously, people in VD and VS drive like entitled assholes. It’s all smooth until someone is asked to arrive 10 seconds later home.
riglic on
The ancient way of “handzeichen” would probably be the official answer.
_HatOishii_ on
At unmarked intersections, vehicles coming from the right have priority.
Not really a clear statement in this case and in my opinion (IANAL disclosure highly emphasized) the standard applies: Drivers have to negotiate peacefully the proceeding.
Buugomes on
The red car. Blue needs to give priority to every car to be able to enter the highway
mosquito90 on
If you look on google street view, the blue has to yield to red. The sign is there just before starting rolling onto road 15. Given this I think it is the red who has the right of way.
Coco_JuTo on
Well, taking this interchange a lot and just talking about experience (aka no official rule), the one coming from A15 (aka red) has the priority because it is “already on the highway” as the A3 (aka blue) is exiting the highway and has to slow down and give way.
Though we always try to look at what is the most simple thing to do and if blue is slightly ahead and I’m red slightly behind, I give way as well.
It depends on the circumstances in order to behave with common sense and not create a dangerous situation.
Thercon_Jair on
Clover leaf motorway ramps – the worst design for roadsafety. At least there’s very few of this type around in Switzerland.
drbart on
blue needs to accelerate, red needs to slow down. red should “yield” – they’re both changing lanes, so I wouldn’t call it a yield situation.
mrahab100 on
They are equal. Both drivers are expected to cooperate and compromise.
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Got this situation yesterday. Wondering if the are any rules in Switzerland. This being Switzerland š
At a highway intersection (as shown in the picture) . My “favourite a15 to a3” , both cars are driving parallel at the same speed. The left car is trying to move right to enter the a3 ramp, while the right car is trying to move left to merge onto the a15. Both started signaling at the same time. Who has the right of way, and how should this be handled? One car will need to break to let the other car through.
Thank you.
Not sure if there are official rules for this but Iād say 99% of people would let the car on the left go first, since letting the left lane overtake is what everyone is more used to.Ā
āOne car needs to breakā what a tragedy š¤£
Leaving the joke aside I donāt know if thereās any rule, I think itās at small agreement
I’d say, that the red car would have the right of way, as they are coming from a straight road and might thus be faster, or more dangerous (faster).
Additionally, the red car would be to the left of the blue one and that would mean, that they are overtaking (generally speaking).
That’s how I’d see it. No idea what regulations say.
No one. Everyone will stay on his lane till someone use his brain to act smart
They definitely do not cross at the same time: in the picture the one wanting to cross has to give way to the one driving on straight.
The straight part between the exits is normal highway, so I would say the car on the left overtakesĀ
That seems to me a situation where both have the same priority. Since the red and blue want to shift lane, at the same time, both need to decide in a defensive way to not provoke an accident or dangerous manoeuvres. One needs to brake and other to accelerate.
Itās wise and recommended to have a defensive driving, so if that situation happens the appropriate approach is to signal the intention to change lane and reduce speed
Is this next to IKEA in Bern š. I hate this section of road
Blue has to give way to red when merging.
There, problem solved.
If you’re coming from the ramp, you are slower, let the left lane take over. The guy behind left lane car should notice situation and slow down to let you merge.
Only on Swiss roads this kind of situation seems to be complicated because it requires a display of **courtesy** from the drivers. Seriously, people in VD and VS drive like entitled assholes. It’s all smooth until someone is asked to arrive 10 seconds later home.
The ancient way of “handzeichen” would probably be the official answer.
At unmarked intersections, vehicles coming from the right have priority.
[https://traffic-rules.com/en/switzerland/traffic-rules/priority-rules](https://traffic-rules.com/en/switzerland/traffic-rules/priority-rules)
In case of doubt, car on the right has priority, same as on intersections.
So we have [this situation](https://www.google.ch/maps/@47.18492,8.977129,3a,32.8y,185.73h,91.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4-2CXuijxYeIBZsCMQrW3A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.8878240057496782%26panoid%3D4-2CXuijxYeIBZsCMQrW3A%26yaw%3D185.7259610496887!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDExNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). According to traffic code article 35 #4, passing on fork interchanges are only allowed when the situation is clear and no yielding is impacted.
Not really a clear statement in this case and in my opinion (IANAL disclosure highly emphasized) the standard applies: Drivers have to negotiate peacefully the proceeding.
The red car. Blue needs to give priority to every car to be able to enter the highway
If you look on google street view, the blue has to yield to red. The sign is there just before starting rolling onto road 15. Given this I think it is the red who has the right of way.
Well, taking this interchange a lot and just talking about experience (aka no official rule), the one coming from A15 (aka red) has the priority because it is “already on the highway” as the A3 (aka blue) is exiting the highway and has to slow down and give way.
Though we always try to look at what is the most simple thing to do and if blue is slightly ahead and I’m red slightly behind, I give way as well.
It depends on the circumstances in order to behave with common sense and not create a dangerous situation.
Clover leaf motorway ramps – the worst design for roadsafety. At least there’s very few of this type around in Switzerland.
blue needs to accelerate, red needs to slow down. red should “yield” – they’re both changing lanes, so I wouldn’t call it a yield situation.
They are equal. Both drivers are expected to cooperate and compromise.