Il capo dell’Europol invita i giganti della tecnologia a sbloccare i messaggi crittografati
https://www.belganewsagency.eu/europol-chief-calls-on-tech-giants-to-unlock-encrypted-messages
di leaflock7
Il capo dell’Europol invita i giganti della tecnologia a sbloccare i messaggi crittografati
https://www.belganewsagency.eu/europol-chief-calls-on-tech-giants-to-unlock-encrypted-messages
di leaflock7
47 commenti
In the meantime when all EU fights on what Americans do, our Politicians are ready to deprive us from our rights.
How about suck my cock, Surveillance McWatchman???
One of the rare cases where I side with big tech companies.
Privacy sometimes cost more than money, sometimes the cost is that criminals and fiends will get away and that price is okay even though it stings and cause something of a logical headache.
I would very much like that my encryptions still stay encrypted when Europe take the same turn as the US does right at this moment. Thank you very much miss Belgian police chief and our Swedish commissioner in the EU commission can crawl right back to where she came from with her chat control proposal.
>“Anonymity is not a fundamental right,” she told the Financial Times. She drew an analogy between digital encryption and a locked door during a physical police search.
Well, fuck you then. My PGP 256 bit encryption says otherwise rather than your rickety door lock.
Great timing to push this shit when fascism is on the rise.
> “Anonymity is not a fundamental right,” she told the Financial Times. She drew an analogy between digital encryption and a locked door during a physical police search.
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>“When we have a search warrant and we are in front of a house and the door is locked, and you know that the criminal is inside of the house, the population will not accept that you cannot enter.”
We don’t require door manufacturers to put in shitty locks that are easy to lockpick enabling more crime. The cops just bash the door down.
> The Europol chief said that in a digital environment, the police needed to be able to decode these messages to fight crime. “You will not be able to enforce democracy without it,” she added.
What a phrase, “enforce democracy”. We must install cameras in your bathrooms to enforce democracy, the Big Brother will enforce democracy.
Good lord – how stupid are these people? dont they ever learn? we need to be promoting privacy not surveillance. They already monitor just about everything, this is how you get fascism.
Do those people even understand the basics of encryption or do they play dumb?
I’m so happy to see the comments in this post all making excellent arguments why this shouldn’t happen.
Here we go again… Some law enforcement big wig doesn’t understand how encryption works.
In analogy with “locked door”… this means, that individual must be informed/aware that police has the order to break the door. This means, the owner of the encrypted messages should know upfront or in real-time that Police department X is decrypting/reading his messages and they have Order No. 123 to do so.
Every access to encrypted messaging should be strongly audited and transparent to all parties.
Collecting evidence (or just spying on opponents) secretly is not an option there.
Compromising privacy of 99.5% to catch 0.5% of criminals also doesn’t sound fair.
And does De Bolle agree on somebody intercepting her own messaging? How about her opponent will read her traffic which were granted to… who knows whom. Does Tech companies now will be obligated to review every request just to make sure Chinese or Russion government does not make falsificated requests on data access for EU citizens? “We suspect De Bolle in criminal activities – give us decryption key!”
I like my privacy thank you very much
How about we unlock her messages for a month or so, let us all watch. Then we ask her if it were a good idea.
are we wrapping it in “good for economy” or “save the children” paper this time?
StaSi would be so proud of her.
>She said they had a “social responsibility” to grant police access to encrypted communications used by criminals to evade detection.
Ah yes, lets just give you the ability to read ALL messages and invade peoples privacy because a small percentage of people do criminal things. Shall i also just give you the key to my frontdoor while you’re at it? you know cause some people to illegal things at home. Fuck off
One day we’ll have to wear mandatory always-on microphones, monitoring our democratic attitudes even in the most private settings and conversations.
It was a dumb idea first time it was proposed, it is a dumb idea now, and will remain so in the future. Fuck off already.
NO.
Fuck off
If they will get this through… eventually there will be bunch of open source messaging apps which holds every conversation locally on the device. You just share PGP key with your peer and do your shady business… or journalism on corrupt politicians. There will be no centralized server to access the messages.
And we will be left with typical (normal) WhatsApp user and all REAL criminals will be never seen on WhatsApp.
that is stupid as fuck
Hell nah
curio… but why all law proposals in this direction, that I saw, contain always a sentence like: “Excluded from this law are …”?
The irony is too much.
So, is this the way we European people are supposed to be more democratic than the now-called American neo-nazists? I am afraid the only current place on the planet that allows a fair existence is Antarctica…
She can stuff that euro pole up her ass.
Please just get rid of the tech giants, not their tech
Aside from privacy concerns, if law enforcement have a way to access data, so do criminals. These people are not dumb, they just don’t care.
sure. Just as long as you let me in to your house
If the data is encrypted end-to-end then the servers don’t have the keys to decode the messages. If the messages are encrypted client-server then the data and keys would be stored server-side. There’s no need to compromise security further by allowing police to have agency over the decrypting part. Warrants should be able to force companies to share specifically identified data. It should be used to prosecute specific criminals not act as a data lake for law enforcement. Noone is saying that police shouldn’t be able to get information via a lawful warrant. Privacy shouldn’t be discarded just because police are frustrated with private companies.
And even then, if this plan worked, you’re only compelling lawfully abiding companies. Criminals will just move to another service. It wouldn’t take much distrust for a paranoid, conspiring criminal group to switch.
Doesn’t inspire much confidence.
Glad to see the EU is doing their best not to fall back on the fascism trend.
fascism encapsulated – as we see the big brother dream is forever young
who is going to run room 101?
news flash. “Criminals” will adapt as soon as the 1st arrests are made, and the rest of the law abiding public will suffer over their eroded rights
Tech giants bad so you better listen to and support the warm-fuzzy EU bureaucrat
Time to buy a cheap phone number, and send it a lot of porn, or a lot of PDF files with the text “you wanted this right?” And then sending that a million times, so that it gets picked up my a radar
Monthly EU chat control scandal
We are willing to risk a little safety for assurance of our fundamental freedoms.
Chat control did not pass. Stop pushing for mass surveilance. We don’t want it.
waiting for the muppets commenting “i am fine with it. what are you trying to hide?”
One, and that is one of many, problem with this is once you create a backdoor, that is a backdoor many others can walk through.
Booooooo!
Yeah, let’s first make all communications by politicians and government officials public. Then we can talk about “unlocking encryption” for the rest of us.
It’s a shame that such a statement won’t immediately lead to her being fired both due to technical incompetence and due to fundamental incompatibility with human rights. She’s a lot more dangerous than whatever criminals she’s talking about are.
i love how tech illiterate people think about encryption keys, and back doors…. there is no such thing as a key for the good guys! if the any agency or police department has it than you can be 100% sure that at least one nefarious actor has it too…. Great….now nobody is safe…
Europe does good thing, europe does bad thing.
“They attac, they protec” or how did the meme go
Like protect us from chemicals and billionaires not from fucking freedom and privacy
So hard to choose which fuck head to vote when it all seems to be about choosing which right to lose
Fuck. Off.
Stopping crime warrants all tools. Next do capital punishment and guilty until proven innocent?