Wait until they read about the UK’s and the Netherlands’ colonial pasts…
Aragogo on
Lumumba was the first democratically elected president, mind you.
This is why we can’t just look at the current situation in America and say “oh they’re stupid, we’re smarter.” No, Europe’s hands are bloody with this stuff as well. We’ve delt with it *marginally* better out of a desire to uphold civility, but racism still runs rampant if you know where to look.
Poesvliegtuig on
I mean, good.
We haven’t properly reckoned with this history. There are still Leopold II-lanes and shit. Renaming a square in Ixelles to Patrice Lumumbasquare was still controversial a couple of years ago. I talked to a friend’s grandma (deceased a few years ago now) who remembered visiting the human zoo.
FoogThe2stt on
HKHKCIVO
Megendrio on
They’re finding out every couple of years… a couple of years ago, some Americans almost started to riot because they sell chocolate “handjes” in Antwerp (as it’s the city symbol) because they just assumed it to be in direct relationship with this story.
Leprecon on
I think it is quite weird that they are using a colourisation of a black and white image in the article.
Colourisation is interpretative. Colourising a picture ads an artists interpretation of what it should look like. I don’t think we should use colourised pictures when it comes to teaching history. Especially since these artists tend to make history look a lot more bland on purpose. They love using bland colours like grey, white, brown. Ignoring that we have evidence that in the past people loved colourful clothes maybe even more than today.
Also colourisation ‘artists’ tend to create a new copyright on an old picture, which I think is extremely messed up. Then their shitty fake historical interpretation becomes paid competition with the actual real history.
Deep_Dance8745 on
I was not involved with any of these atrocities and my forefathers were doing childlabor under Leopold II.
Royal household and all those lanes/cities/places with their names can be adjusted yesterday for all i care. And can we finally in the 21st century abolish that royal household completely?
Majority of Flemish will feel the same way – French aristocrats and royalty have treated us like shit for years. So I will certainly not feel adressed when the topic of the Congo is mentioned – and i honestly get fed-up each time some politician or media figure tries to put the blame on us “Belgians”
I fully agree they are entitled to repairs, but please go and get it with the aristocrat families that got rich of it, and ooh yes we still have plenty of those in the shadows.
HertogJan1 on
Guys the congo was not under Belgian rule it was the personal property of the Belgian kings. Belgium as a nation is not responsible only the Belgian kings are.
Thecatstoppedateboli on
Millenials that share via x or Twitter or whatever that cesspool is called these days. It shows that their life is online and they do not have an offline life anymore.
dreamerinthesky on
To be fair, a lot of countries have troubled pasts with colonialism. Belgium is not the big, evil exception.
Easy101 on
Oh no, Addison discovered how Wikipedia works what are we going to do.
kenva86 on
Let the past be the past. Everytime the same thing again.
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Wait until they read about the UK’s and the Netherlands’ colonial pasts…
Lumumba was the first democratically elected president, mind you.
This is why we can’t just look at the current situation in America and say “oh they’re stupid, we’re smarter.” No, Europe’s hands are bloody with this stuff as well. We’ve delt with it *marginally* better out of a desire to uphold civility, but racism still runs rampant if you know where to look.
I mean, good.
We haven’t properly reckoned with this history. There are still Leopold II-lanes and shit. Renaming a square in Ixelles to Patrice Lumumbasquare was still controversial a couple of years ago. I talked to a friend’s grandma (deceased a few years ago now) who remembered visiting the human zoo.
HKHKCIVO
They’re finding out every couple of years… a couple of years ago, some Americans almost started to riot because they sell chocolate “handjes” in Antwerp (as it’s the city symbol) because they just assumed it to be in direct relationship with this story.
I think it is quite weird that they are using a colourisation of a black and white image in the article.
Colourisation is interpretative. Colourising a picture ads an artists interpretation of what it should look like. I don’t think we should use colourised pictures when it comes to teaching history. Especially since these artists tend to make history look a lot more bland on purpose. They love using bland colours like grey, white, brown. Ignoring that we have evidence that in the past people loved colourful clothes maybe even more than today.
Also colourisation ‘artists’ tend to create a new copyright on an old picture, which I think is extremely messed up. Then their shitty fake historical interpretation becomes paid competition with the actual real history.
I was not involved with any of these atrocities and my forefathers were doing childlabor under Leopold II.
Royal household and all those lanes/cities/places with their names can be adjusted yesterday for all i care. And can we finally in the 21st century abolish that royal household completely?
Majority of Flemish will feel the same way – French aristocrats and royalty have treated us like shit for years. So I will certainly not feel adressed when the topic of the Congo is mentioned – and i honestly get fed-up each time some politician or media figure tries to put the blame on us “Belgians”
I fully agree they are entitled to repairs, but please go and get it with the aristocrat families that got rich of it, and ooh yes we still have plenty of those in the shadows.
Guys the congo was not under Belgian rule it was the personal property of the Belgian kings. Belgium as a nation is not responsible only the Belgian kings are.
Millenials that share via x or Twitter or whatever that cesspool is called these days. It shows that their life is online and they do not have an offline life anymore.
To be fair, a lot of countries have troubled pasts with colonialism. Belgium is not the big, evil exception.
Oh no, Addison discovered how Wikipedia works what are we going to do.
Let the past be the past. Everytime the same thing again.