Always nice to see the label “MENAPT” on a post. Just like “woke” you know you’re about to read some real nonsense.
orgrer on
So what you’re saying is that if you hire a hitman from India he won’t get caught?
Pro tip buddy
0-Snap on
The flaw in this analysis is that it divides the number of convictions of people from a specific country by the number of Danish residents from that country. But people can commit crimes in Denmark and be convicted without being residents of Denmark, so the denominator is wrong.
Inevitable-Pause-532 on
The data spans from 2010 to 2021 but includes “Czechoslovakia,” “Yugoslavia,” “the Soviet Union,” and “The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia” — listed twice. Additionally, all the individual countries that were part of those unions are also listed separately. Why is that? How did they come up with those numbers?
Plus, it’s even more confusing when they tout the people from, e.g. BIH (Bosnia and Herzegovina) as an integration success story with other statistical data, and then this claims the complete opposite. Croatia, Greece, Hungary, etc., are Western, but the others in the same region (the Balkans) aren’t because they aren’t part of the EU.
So they’re well-educated criminals or criminal masterminds?
Edit: Added info.
Obvious_Sun_1927 on
Ah yes, the currently existing countries of Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia….
How deep into your own ass did you have to reach to find these statistics?
Brockk007 on
Easy to tell OP is not Danish, and is properly someone from the new Twitter thats infiltrating this community
SorteStoffer on
I remember seeing this a year or so ago. Doesn’t really surprise me if I’m being honest. MENAPT and african countries being overrepresented in crime just shows how incompatible the cultures in those regions are with western ones.
Positive_Chip6198 on
Jeg har en ide om at jeg gerne ville bo i japan, også selvom jeg aldrig bliver andet end en outsider. De er sku bare ordentlige mennesker!
Cheeseboi8210 on
For a person who mostly post in /r/kerala you sure seem interested in danish crime rates
DryMathematician8213 on
What most people either ignore or fail to see is the over representation of foreign born nationals committing crimes in Denmark.
You can slice and dice however you want, it’s not changing the outcome.
It’s really sad to see and what is not commented on is why is it so?
nozendk on
This also shows that when we talk about problems with integration of immigrants, it makes no sense to use the expression “non western” because there is a big difference between south east Asia and the middle east.
luscious_lobster on
Now do by religion
the_poope on
Is there data that also includes factors such as socioeconomic status and education?
I think you will find that people with less education, less job stability and lower incomes will also show up more in this statistic. A large fraction of the MENAPT immigrants or descendants fall into this category. Whether that’s enough to explain the large discrepancy I don’t know – the data will tell.
Green_Perception_671 on
Even if the data is technically correct, the conclusions people are trying to draw from it are not.
People post this, and try to make the conclusion that it’s purely cultural differences – people from certain countries are inherently more likely to commit crimes. But for that, you’d need to take a *random* group of people from each country, and give them an identical stay in Denmark.
Australians (for example) are overwhelming choosing to move to Denmark with Danish partners and with white collar jobs. The upper countries on the list are from poorer countries, perhaps refugees, living in poorer conditions within Denmark.
It’s not a reasonable comparison, and the majority of people posting this want to make it about skin colour or western vs Middle Eastern, while it should be about rich vs poor. The Indians moving here are the wealthier Indians, working for large companies – this is not the case for Syrians.
A consequence of this, is that you could easily conclude from the data that Danes are far more likely to commit crimes than almost every other western nationality- obviously untrue.
Giantmufti on
Is this a Russian. Can we identify who is behind this?
Ultimate600 on
People arguing against statistics incoming in 3.. 2.. 1..
bygningshejre on
Overrasket at Rumænien og Bulgarien ikke er højere. Det siger noget om min/vores fordomme.
Det er meget flot at dem der ligger under Danmarks gennemsnit.
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Please do provide a source for your claim
Source: https://inquisitivebird.xyz/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark
Always nice to see the label “MENAPT” on a post. Just like “woke” you know you’re about to read some real nonsense.
So what you’re saying is that if you hire a hitman from India he won’t get caught?
Pro tip buddy
The flaw in this analysis is that it divides the number of convictions of people from a specific country by the number of Danish residents from that country. But people can commit crimes in Denmark and be convicted without being residents of Denmark, so the denominator is wrong.
The data spans from 2010 to 2021 but includes “Czechoslovakia,” “Yugoslavia,” “the Soviet Union,” and “The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia” — listed twice. Additionally, all the individual countries that were part of those unions are also listed separately. Why is that? How did they come up with those numbers?
Plus, it’s even more confusing when they tout the people from, e.g. BIH (Bosnia and Herzegovina) as an integration success story with other statistical data, and then this claims the complete opposite. Croatia, Greece, Hungary, etc., are Western, but the others in the same region (the Balkans) aren’t because they aren’t part of the EU.
One of many articles on the abovementioned about Bosnians: [https://www.zetland.dk/historie/sOMN621g-aeW04Gvq-37f28](https://www.zetland.dk/historie/sOMN621g-aeW04Gvq-37f28)
The data supporting it: [https://ast.dk/filer/tal-og-undersogelser/tal-og-tendenser-filer/unge-med-bosnisk-oprindelse-klarer-sig-godt-i-danmark](https://ast.dk/filer/tal-og-undersogelser/tal-og-tendenser-filer/unge-med-bosnisk-oprindelse-klarer-sig-godt-i-danmark)
So they’re well-educated criminals or criminal masterminds?
Edit: Added info.
Ah yes, the currently existing countries of Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia….
How deep into your own ass did you have to reach to find these statistics?
Easy to tell OP is not Danish, and is properly someone from the new Twitter thats infiltrating this community
I remember seeing this a year or so ago. Doesn’t really surprise me if I’m being honest. MENAPT and african countries being overrepresented in crime just shows how incompatible the cultures in those regions are with western ones.
Jeg har en ide om at jeg gerne ville bo i japan, også selvom jeg aldrig bliver andet end en outsider. De er sku bare ordentlige mennesker!
For a person who mostly post in /r/kerala you sure seem interested in danish crime rates
What most people either ignore or fail to see is the over representation of foreign born nationals committing crimes in Denmark.
You can slice and dice however you want, it’s not changing the outcome.
It’s really sad to see and what is not commented on is why is it so?
This also shows that when we talk about problems with integration of immigrants, it makes no sense to use the expression “non western” because there is a big difference between south east Asia and the middle east.
Now do by religion
Is there data that also includes factors such as socioeconomic status and education?
I think you will find that people with less education, less job stability and lower incomes will also show up more in this statistic. A large fraction of the MENAPT immigrants or descendants fall into this category. Whether that’s enough to explain the large discrepancy I don’t know – the data will tell.
Even if the data is technically correct, the conclusions people are trying to draw from it are not.
People post this, and try to make the conclusion that it’s purely cultural differences – people from certain countries are inherently more likely to commit crimes. But for that, you’d need to take a *random* group of people from each country, and give them an identical stay in Denmark.
Australians (for example) are overwhelming choosing to move to Denmark with Danish partners and with white collar jobs. The upper countries on the list are from poorer countries, perhaps refugees, living in poorer conditions within Denmark.
It’s not a reasonable comparison, and the majority of people posting this want to make it about skin colour or western vs Middle Eastern, while it should be about rich vs poor. The Indians moving here are the wealthier Indians, working for large companies – this is not the case for Syrians.
A consequence of this, is that you could easily conclude from the data that Danes are far more likely to commit crimes than almost every other western nationality- obviously untrue.
Is this a Russian. Can we identify who is behind this?
People arguing against statistics incoming in 3.. 2.. 1..
Overrasket at Rumænien og Bulgarien ikke er højere. Det siger noget om min/vores fordomme.
Det er meget flot at dem der ligger under Danmarks gennemsnit.