I legislatori tedeschi non possono concordare se cercare il divieto di estrema destra AFD

Surely it is easier to ban afd instead ensuring noone vote for them with good policies and respect of people voice. You ban them, another one will come out unless you start to fix the problem instead of creating another one.

To do it right now, just before the election, is a sure way to hand them more votes.

Democracy needs to be defended, unfortunately this may be too little too late. Let’s hope we can unite and kick out the fascists once more.

You cant change peoples opinions by banning parties. Go find the root cause.. what makes people vote for Afd ?

It’s not a far right movement. It’s a neo-nazis movement. Come on Germany!

Libs doing mental gymnastics trying to justify acting like fascist only to prevent fascism?

If the proposal passes, there is no way the Constitutional Court decides the case before the election. So the question is, what impact will this have on the voters. But the voters are according to a poll split around 50/50 on this issue, so I don’t think there is much to gain with this debate.

I think it would have been wiser for the representatives who support that proposal to wait until after the election and then bring that issue into the negotiation about a coalition between CDU/CSU, SPD, and Greens to make sure they have a majority before bringing it to parliament. Ideally, there should be very little debate about this in parliament, because ultimately it is up to the court and that is where the bulk of the debate should be held.

they didnt manage to ban the real neonazi party, so why would they ban the AFD? Also: lets say you ban the AFD, a party representing about 20-25% of the population and not have the proper neonazi party banned, you risk people just voting for them instead. What some people dont realize is that banning a party/movement this big will introduce a whole new set of issues we cannot even think about right now

Ah, the democracy-lovers.

Nothing says more that you are on the right side, as banning political party’s.

European democrazy strikes again!

“Tyranny is when my side loses, *democracy is when we win*!”.

This is the paradox of tolerance being demonstrated in real-time. The optics of suppression will enrage the AfD base, but allowing them to continue skirting the law weakens democracy.

I think what the general public needs most is moral clarity and conviction in handling these matters – leadership. It’s clear that the current constellation of parties is divided on essentially everything. There’s an absence of urgency here that is appalling.

Banning the AfD now is way to late. nearly 20% is voting them and many will be radicalised.

Keep in mind that banning a group of people (25% of voters, is it?) from participating in democracy, especially with such extremist views, will probably lead to extremist actions.

Banning or not, I don’t expect things to go well either way.

Yeah, a ban on any party will just make things worse. Just gonna throw more fuel to the fire. Change your own policies and listen to the people who vote for afd instead. If you ban them a new and even worse will show up and people will just vote for them in despise. How do you people not get that? It’s not rocket science to understand this.

You can ban the party, but not the ideas behind it.

And my friend, ideas, are bulletproof.

I think a real and growing challenge for Germany and for Europe as a whole is that the same powers that brought the US (my home country) Trump are now well at work here as well. As the post-war consensus that drove relatively centrist and more left-ish politics has started to break down, the right sees an opening among disaffected voters that haven’t reaped the benefits of the Information age and are feeling resentful, marginalized, and in many areas forgotten. They feel that their traditional values are not respected by an urban elite. I see it here in Finland as well. The result is that trying to outright ban AfD will probably only fuel their support because then they can tie their narrative into the victimhood line that right wing parties always thrive from. And meanwhile, they can always continue to bring up real issues around the challenges of immigration, that the left tends to downplay, but that people can see. There probably needs to be an acceptance of their existence though, even as taboo as this may be in Germany, because to try to ignore it or ban it will only add fuel to the fire.

Best way to undermine radical movements is to do a thorough analysis what makes people support them. Supermajority of the supporters do not oppose democracy per se, but are in for a protest.

In this case, the central theme is being immigration, and it is currently being managed. I’ve been following this thing 20 years where I live, and it has become a standard to deem anyone a nazi who disagrees with the most liberal views regarding immigration and its issues. This basically never makes those people change their views, but is responded “well, if that makes me a nazi, then so be it”.

Grab the central themes, and you’ll crumble their support, because majority of the supporters are willing to look away from some other crap(in this case, these far-right clowns) in order to get their original message through.

Typical politic + typical German = never going to happen or do bullshit like the weed law

That will make it worse and fan the flames. You’re literally walking into Elons trap

The BEST way to get rid of far-right is to make sure the economy is good and is thriving. Most people don´t care about politics, let alone hate. They just care about living standards – AND WE ALL CAN HELP IMPROVE THAT!! WE ALL CAN WORK ON GETTING OUR ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK!

Office management can’t agree whether to call firefighters as paper pin burns.

The irony is completely lost. The Weimar Republic tried the exact same thing to the Nazi Party, causing more support, leading to their demise by force and foul play. Guess what the Nazis did themselves right after? Banned oposing ideology.

It’s an extreme comparison because of WW1, but if the Weimar Republic instead focused on the political and economic issues of the time, perhaps Hitler wouldn’t have even had the support to march on München, let alone his actions in the following ten years.

Right or wrong, suppressing ideology is undemocratic and will ultimately cause that ideology to grow and become more extreme. You treat an illness with antibiotics, not by euthanasia.

German politicians are so inefficient, outdated, and lazy that they would rather sweep it under the rug than address the root of the problem. They need to stop staring at their pagers and fax machines, modernise, and do something.

Banning a political party under the excuse of labeling them far right neo nazis would be dangerous precedent.