Europe has spent all their cash on stupid shit. Why do you think they can’t muster proper supply of weapons&ammo on ukraine, and still have to rely on US? Three years AFTER the war started?
Europe doesn’t have money to defend itself, let alone greenland.
HighDeltaVee on
Europe needs to stop talking about Greenland, because it’s just playing into Trump’s hands.
Ignore what the dumb fuck *says* and pay attention to what he’s actually *doing*, because that’s the real danger.
Odd-Local9893 on
This will likely be very unpopular here, but as a thought experiment does the U.S. controlling Greenland actually benefit Europe? Denmark is a small country and the EU as a whole is anemic with regard to defense (let alone power projection). The Russians are making a play for the Arctic (as are the Chinese), and despite what Redditors say, the US is a compatriot with Europe for maintaining the current international order.
So assuming that both Russia and China are going to make a play for the arctic in the near future, and assuming that “Europe” will remain unable to defend Greenland and its resources (not to mention its extremely strategic location)…wouldn’t a robust U.S. military bulwark be preferable to Chinese control, or outright Russian invasion?
It’s not the Americans who are dragging anchors to disrupt communications. It’s not the Americans who have been waging hybrid warfare for the past two years. And it’s not the Americans who are cyber-attacking Infrastructure. Further, it’s been the Americans who have guaranteed European security for the past eighty years.
Downvote away.
Noah_canon on
I really think people underestimate the deep economic crisis that EU is going through. Everything is falling apart in EU and not even the brightest minds are able to find a solution. The export is falling every year. Every country is in huge deficit each year. To make matters worse, EU has a dying population and no one is willing to make enough children. It’s a dying continent…
carmillien_nien on
France has said they will defend every centimeter of Danish sovereign territory. With their warning shot nuclear doctrine I think if this piece of shit fascist risks it all for Greenland – a warning shot nuclear explosion 25 kilometers from Manhatten will send Trump to the negotiation table where he will bluster and fold as usual.
PainInTheRhine on
Has Greenland actually asked Europe to “stand up” for it? They have decades of experience in using US and other players to wring concessions out of Denmark.
BadOdd1861 on
The whole of Europe needs to militarily back Denmark and thus Greenland. People like Trump only understand brute force. Everything else is a waste of time. Likewise, there should be no military bases except Europe’s on Greenland.
Cuchulain_ on
Stfu elon
Odd-Willingness7107 on
“Denmark fears that if its reactions to Trump’s territorial designs are too vocal, it could alienate Greenlanders and push the island further into the US orbit. Tread carefully are the watchwords coming from Copenhagen to its European partners.”
This confuses me. If 85% of Greenland does not want to join the US, why would it be an issue to vocally defend them? I would have thought it would appreciate it.
Secondly, “Europe needs to step up and defend Greenland, it is failing”. Well, according to the article it is the Danish themselves discouraging everyone from being too vocal for fear of pushing Greenland into the US orbit. I am not sure why that would happen but if that is the case, then isn’t the muted response adhering to what Denmark wants?
DefInnit on
Germany and France have already spoken up about respecting territory. The UK hasn’t, so British media should probably focus on that.
There are those who want Europe to fight America, whether in rhetoric or worse, but it’s complicated between allies, innit?
For all his bluster, Trump too has not made any actual moves because it would be bad for Europe AND America.
No_Main_3738 on
Greenland is in North America
d_Inside on
No it’s not lol. They are just trolling as usual.
July_is_cool on
Blah blah blah, prevarication, procrastination, arguing about local party politics, “it can’t happen here.” Has happened a few times in the past.
Internal_Share_2202 on
I’m not sure if this form of attention would be helpful, since even the majority of Americans know that Trump’s mental incontinence is often and mostly without substance.
PhoneBeginning on
Did Europe stand up for Serbia in 1999 ?
burnttoastwarrior on
What’s Europe actually going to do if America invades Greenland? Like, really what are they gonna do?
Nothing. Harsh reality check, but maybe you should have bolstered you’re defenses instead of letting the states subsidize it all this time.
SquashLeather4789 on
Denmark is priced out of Greenland. The smartest thing for us would be to send USVI and Puerto Rico representatives to Greenland, and let them explain how good it is under US protectorate. They’ll be citizens of the USA. Europe is wasteland. The future is integration with Americas.
Weird_Rooster_4307 on
Canada has a vested interest in this just like The danish. We split an island that we were at war for until 2022.
PowerLion786 on
And finally someone gets it. There is a reason to Trump’s madness. Greenland is currently neglected. Some random poll being quoted is meaningless as seen in the recent US election – they are biased.
-Dovahzul- on
The truth often hurts. All you do is talk. No real action, no real sanctions etc. You have to admit that you don’t have any power over these crazy US leaders. They’re going to take Greenland, a European soil, and the fact is that the EU can’t do anything about it.
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Europe has spent all their cash on stupid shit. Why do you think they can’t muster proper supply of weapons&ammo on ukraine, and still have to rely on US? Three years AFTER the war started?
Europe doesn’t have money to defend itself, let alone greenland.
Europe needs to stop talking about Greenland, because it’s just playing into Trump’s hands.
Ignore what the dumb fuck *says* and pay attention to what he’s actually *doing*, because that’s the real danger.
This will likely be very unpopular here, but as a thought experiment does the U.S. controlling Greenland actually benefit Europe? Denmark is a small country and the EU as a whole is anemic with regard to defense (let alone power projection). The Russians are making a play for the Arctic (as are the Chinese), and despite what Redditors say, the US is a compatriot with Europe for maintaining the current international order.
So assuming that both Russia and China are going to make a play for the arctic in the near future, and assuming that “Europe” will remain unable to defend Greenland and its resources (not to mention its extremely strategic location)…wouldn’t a robust U.S. military bulwark be preferable to Chinese control, or outright Russian invasion?
It’s not the Americans who are dragging anchors to disrupt communications. It’s not the Americans who have been waging hybrid warfare for the past two years. And it’s not the Americans who are cyber-attacking Infrastructure. Further, it’s been the Americans who have guaranteed European security for the past eighty years.
Downvote away.
I really think people underestimate the deep economic crisis that EU is going through. Everything is falling apart in EU and not even the brightest minds are able to find a solution. The export is falling every year. Every country is in huge deficit each year. To make matters worse, EU has a dying population and no one is willing to make enough children. It’s a dying continent…
France has said they will defend every centimeter of Danish sovereign territory. With their warning shot nuclear doctrine I think if this piece of shit fascist risks it all for Greenland – a warning shot nuclear explosion 25 kilometers from Manhatten will send Trump to the negotiation table where he will bluster and fold as usual.
Has Greenland actually asked Europe to “stand up” for it? They have decades of experience in using US and other players to wring concessions out of Denmark.
The whole of Europe needs to militarily back Denmark and thus Greenland. People like Trump only understand brute force. Everything else is a waste of time. Likewise, there should be no military bases except Europe’s on Greenland.
Stfu elon
“Denmark fears that if its reactions to Trump’s territorial designs are too vocal, it could alienate Greenlanders and push the island further into the US orbit. Tread carefully are the watchwords coming from Copenhagen to its European partners.”
This confuses me. If 85% of Greenland does not want to join the US, why would it be an issue to vocally defend them? I would have thought it would appreciate it.
Secondly, “Europe needs to step up and defend Greenland, it is failing”. Well, according to the article it is the Danish themselves discouraging everyone from being too vocal for fear of pushing Greenland into the US orbit. I am not sure why that would happen but if that is the case, then isn’t the muted response adhering to what Denmark wants?
Germany and France have already spoken up about respecting territory. The UK hasn’t, so British media should probably focus on that.
There are those who want Europe to fight America, whether in rhetoric or worse, but it’s complicated between allies, innit?
For all his bluster, Trump too has not made any actual moves because it would be bad for Europe AND America.
Greenland is in North America
No it’s not lol. They are just trolling as usual.
Blah blah blah, prevarication, procrastination, arguing about local party politics, “it can’t happen here.” Has happened a few times in the past.
I’m not sure if this form of attention would be helpful, since even the majority of Americans know that Trump’s mental incontinence is often and mostly without substance.
Did Europe stand up for Serbia in 1999 ?
What’s Europe actually going to do if America invades Greenland? Like, really what are they gonna do?
Nothing. Harsh reality check, but maybe you should have bolstered you’re defenses instead of letting the states subsidize it all this time.
Denmark is priced out of Greenland. The smartest thing for us would be to send USVI and Puerto Rico representatives to Greenland, and let them explain how good it is under US protectorate. They’ll be citizens of the USA. Europe is wasteland. The future is integration with Americas.
Canada has a vested interest in this just like The danish. We split an island that we were at war for until 2022.
And finally someone gets it. There is a reason to Trump’s madness. Greenland is currently neglected. Some random poll being quoted is meaningless as seen in the recent US election – they are biased.
The truth often hurts. All you do is talk. No real action, no real sanctions etc. You have to admit that you don’t have any power over these crazy US leaders. They’re going to take Greenland, a European soil, and the fact is that the EU can’t do anything about it.