If genuinely united and properly working together, there is good reason to believe that top spot would be wrong too
Excellent_Theory1602 on
Yep. Go EU!
Useful_Advice_3175 on
That’s the whole point of EU yes.
Seventoxy on
Why do you think Musk (and thus Trump as his lapdog) supports EU parties that are eurosceptic? Divide and conquer.
Moosplauze on
#1: There is no “EU with UK”.
#2: My Outlook Database says Nigeria makes the most profit, they have millions of rich princes.
Vnc_arn on
what are you suggesting?
WP27I on
Second Renaissance now
TungstenPaladin on
The UK isn’t coming back so it’ll just be the EU alone.
Equal-Ruin400 on
It’s actually crazy how the USA is still 5 trillion ahead. What happened, how did the EU fall so far behind?
krazydude22 on
UK would still be #6 on the table on the right…
Mountainenthusiast2 on
I want to be back in the EU so bad 😭
G4d0 on
It is the plan of putin and trump after all. Dividing EU and weakened EU is their goals
heapOfWallStreet on
Wow the discovery of the hot water.
Unregistered38 on
Canada wants in too plz. We can rename North America to Canadian Europe and it’ll be fine.
MiloBem on
Adding nominal GDP doesn’t prove anything. If you add 100 poorest countries together their total will be higher but change nothing in the lives of their citizens.
There are good reasons for United Europe, but this chart isn’t it.
InformationEvery8029 on
If Europe united with a coordinated and sound strategy in terms of economic and international affairs, it may overtake America within a decade as America is led by a stupid fat pig living in delusions, and halt China or Russia from dominating the world. Europe is the last hope of mankind, as America has gone mad.
TheDungen on
And this is just adding up the disparate deconomies, there would be force multipliers invovled in this, it’s likely we’d soar past the US. And that’s why all these other forces are workign so hard to keep us apart.
MaphrOne on
If
litlandish on
I still remember these days when EU was larger economy than USA
LucashMeOutside on
The European union seems to grow in size and strength each year and they have displayed, in my opinion, great strength and stability by allowing so many cultures and countries to freely move. Comparitively, the US is one country and they can hardly come together to form a majority on anything, while the EU seems to find ways to work together on issues. The EU is also seemingly the only one willing standing up to big tech on various issues! Go EU! 🇪🇺
Vango_P on
In the late 2000s the EU economy was actually bigger than that of the USA…
We chose austerity, they chose growth…
The blame is on the conservative political decisions made by Germany, the Netherlands and the other “frugal” countries, which had the money…
No-Committee7998 on
Add Japan and Canada to EU and US can go fk themself
RoseyOneOne on
These things always need more context. The US debt to GDP ratio is 135%. Germany is 62%. A goal of the EU is to keep this ratio under 60%. Remember this when people say ‘US is leaving Europe behind’. The growth in Europe is deliberate to be longterm sustainable. Every person in America owes $200k of the national debt by age 30 and they don’t get much for that. In the EU it’s $50k and that comes with significantly more social infrastructure and benefit for the people. It’s not perfect but who’s better off?
But I completely agree in a more united Europe! Let’s get the UK back in, let’s get Ukraine in, let’s see if Canada is keen.
Leading_Stick_5918 on
Brexit is a tragedy of a century.. What a disaster..
inWineVerit4x on
“IF WE”
dazb84 on
Not that I disagree with the thrust, but it’s a mistake to measure anything solely by GDP. Life is complicated and there are many important metrics.
If you want a more abstract reason for why people should come together it’s because the scale of our problems grow with time. This means you need more resources to deal with those problems. If we don’t abandon tribalistic tendencies then there will come a time when no single tribe has the resource to solve the problems being faced, or the tribalism will prevent people from pooling their resources to address the problem. If a tribe can just withdraw, like Trump has done from the WHO, and cripple the ability for that organisation to continue functioning, we have a serious problem with the general design of society.
The only solution is to remove all the friction caused by tribalism by moving as quickly as possible to irradiate tribe mentality. The sooner that we do this the better off we will all be. How easy would the climate crisis be to solve if there was a single planetary government all pulling in the same direction?
We need to improve people’s epistemology so that they are no longer swayed by poor arguments and bad evidence and then we need to unite everyone. Empiricism is a demonstrably superior methodology to truth than anything else and yet we allow so much in society to unfold without requiring it. Just the other day trump was admonishing recruitment policy for a tragic accident. Nobody in a position of power should be able to assert anything without also having to provide the evidence to back up their assertion. If someone can’t provide the evidence for their assertions then they simply shouldn’t be in the position they’re in because that’s demonstrating that they’re not in harmony with objective reality.
26 commenti
If genuinely united and properly working together, there is good reason to believe that top spot would be wrong too
Yep. Go EU!
That’s the whole point of EU yes.
Why do you think Musk (and thus Trump as his lapdog) supports EU parties that are eurosceptic? Divide and conquer.
#1: There is no “EU with UK”.
#2: My Outlook Database says Nigeria makes the most profit, they have millions of rich princes.
what are you suggesting?
Second Renaissance now
The UK isn’t coming back so it’ll just be the EU alone.
It’s actually crazy how the USA is still 5 trillion ahead. What happened, how did the EU fall so far behind?
UK would still be #6 on the table on the right…
I want to be back in the EU so bad 😭
It is the plan of putin and trump after all. Dividing EU and weakened EU is their goals
Wow the discovery of the hot water.
Canada wants in too plz. We can rename North America to Canadian Europe and it’ll be fine.
Adding nominal GDP doesn’t prove anything. If you add 100 poorest countries together their total will be higher but change nothing in the lives of their citizens.
There are good reasons for United Europe, but this chart isn’t it.
If Europe united with a coordinated and sound strategy in terms of economic and international affairs, it may overtake America within a decade as America is led by a stupid fat pig living in delusions, and halt China or Russia from dominating the world. Europe is the last hope of mankind, as America has gone mad.
And this is just adding up the disparate deconomies, there would be force multipliers invovled in this, it’s likely we’d soar past the US. And that’s why all these other forces are workign so hard to keep us apart.
If
I still remember these days when EU was larger economy than USA
The European union seems to grow in size and strength each year and they have displayed, in my opinion, great strength and stability by allowing so many cultures and countries to freely move. Comparitively, the US is one country and they can hardly come together to form a majority on anything, while the EU seems to find ways to work together on issues. The EU is also seemingly the only one willing standing up to big tech on various issues! Go EU! 🇪🇺
In the late 2000s the EU economy was actually bigger than that of the USA…
We chose austerity, they chose growth…
The blame is on the conservative political decisions made by Germany, the Netherlands and the other “frugal” countries, which had the money…
Add Japan and Canada to EU and US can go fk themself
These things always need more context. The US debt to GDP ratio is 135%. Germany is 62%. A goal of the EU is to keep this ratio under 60%. Remember this when people say ‘US is leaving Europe behind’. The growth in Europe is deliberate to be longterm sustainable. Every person in America owes $200k of the national debt by age 30 and they don’t get much for that. In the EU it’s $50k and that comes with significantly more social infrastructure and benefit for the people. It’s not perfect but who’s better off?
But I completely agree in a more united Europe! Let’s get the UK back in, let’s get Ukraine in, let’s see if Canada is keen.
Brexit is a tragedy of a century.. What a disaster..
“IF WE”
Not that I disagree with the thrust, but it’s a mistake to measure anything solely by GDP. Life is complicated and there are many important metrics.
If you want a more abstract reason for why people should come together it’s because the scale of our problems grow with time. This means you need more resources to deal with those problems. If we don’t abandon tribalistic tendencies then there will come a time when no single tribe has the resource to solve the problems being faced, or the tribalism will prevent people from pooling their resources to address the problem. If a tribe can just withdraw, like Trump has done from the WHO, and cripple the ability for that organisation to continue functioning, we have a serious problem with the general design of society.
The only solution is to remove all the friction caused by tribalism by moving as quickly as possible to irradiate tribe mentality. The sooner that we do this the better off we will all be. How easy would the climate crisis be to solve if there was a single planetary government all pulling in the same direction?
We need to improve people’s epistemology so that they are no longer swayed by poor arguments and bad evidence and then we need to unite everyone. Empiricism is a demonstrably superior methodology to truth than anything else and yet we allow so much in society to unfold without requiring it. Just the other day trump was admonishing recruitment policy for a tragic accident. Nobody in a position of power should be able to assert anything without also having to provide the evidence to back up their assertion. If someone can’t provide the evidence for their assertions then they simply shouldn’t be in the position they’re in because that’s demonstrating that they’re not in harmony with objective reality.