If you look at worker productivity or the GDP PPP per hour worked, Big EU economies like Germany and France are almost close to the US (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_labour_productivity), then a significant portion of difference in total output is explained due to less work hours in EU countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours), french worked 85% of the time americans did due to better work life balance in the EU. Yes, Europe has its shortcomings, especially the scale of capital markets but they are more nuanced. Even in semiconductor industry, EU has its own niche monopolies like ASML in lithography machines, Zeiss in lens making. Plus EU doesn’t have the power to bully its competitors like the US does
ThreeCherries1 on
Poor people points
GlobalPsychology6536 on
with 30% more people, huge win for Europe.
Due-Ad-7334 on
With Trumps tariffs that might actually flip lol
robinmobder on
If you look at GDP in PPP terms, Russia has a better economy than Japan.. honestly, to use this figure in all seriousness is a joke…
kidno777 on
Every day with these metrics. Quality of life, life expectancy are more important things. It’s how we live that matters. In the EU we try to live better, and if that means losing out on macroeconomic data. Screw macroeconomic data.
WeightConscious4499 on
Oh so now Europe is a country?
solsticeondemand on
PPP adjustments are participation trophies for countries that want to be something more than they are.
Themetalin on
Potato purchasing power?
BlackberryMobile6451 on
EU, a union covering most of a continent, has a similar gpd to a country the size of said continent
Aware-Chipmunk4344 on
After WW2, when Europe is weak, America under right-minded leaders shoulders up the responsibilities of maintianing the world stability and peace. Now America is weakening daily under a madman’s leadership, it’s time for Europe to stand up and lead the world forward, preserving the human civilization’s precious values.
Filomam on
Let the trade wars begin!
SegheCoiPiedi1777 on
I am sorry but what’s the point of all these posts? Burying our head in the sand and pretending everything is fine? Go check the trends of US. vs EU. GDP, in PPP or not in PPP. There is an undeniable slow economic decline in Europe that you need to be blind not to see – today China and the US compete on AI, Tech, anything that amounts to actual innovation. Where is Europe? OF course, it’s still an economically relevant block of countries. It’s still a great place to live by world’s standards. But what’s the point of being happy with mediocrity?
SkillGuilty355 on
GDP is a garbage metric
TheGreatestOrator on
lol PPP can’t be calculated. The deflator or inflator used is entirely subjective and varies based on who is doing it. And giant countries like the U.S. and EU vary drastically.
Additionally, nominal matters because most goods are not priced based on where you live. We all pay the same for oil, gold, iPhones, etc.
And then you bring in per capita, where China has 4X the population as the U.S. and the EU has 150 million more people – meaning the average person is much poorer.
These-Base6799 on
PPP is a very special tool for extremely narrow use cases. Don’t use unless you know exactly what you do.
Icy_Collar_1072 on
EU need to start acting like a superpower and harness the immense collective power at its disposal. Energy independence, large scale tech investment and defence & security need to be priorities.
Deepweight7 on
For this to be meaningful you’d have to look at it per capita
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Source: summing 27 GDPs from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))
If you look at worker productivity or the GDP PPP per hour worked, Big EU economies like Germany and France are almost close to the US (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_labour_productivity), then a significant portion of difference in total output is explained due to less work hours in EU countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours), french worked 85% of the time americans did due to better work life balance in the EU. Yes, Europe has its shortcomings, especially the scale of capital markets but they are more nuanced. Even in semiconductor industry, EU has its own niche monopolies like ASML in lithography machines, Zeiss in lens making. Plus EU doesn’t have the power to bully its competitors like the US does
Poor people points
with 30% more people, huge win for Europe.
With Trumps tariffs that might actually flip lol
If you look at GDP in PPP terms, Russia has a better economy than Japan.. honestly, to use this figure in all seriousness is a joke…
Every day with these metrics. Quality of life, life expectancy are more important things. It’s how we live that matters. In the EU we try to live better, and if that means losing out on macroeconomic data. Screw macroeconomic data.
Oh so now Europe is a country?
PPP adjustments are participation trophies for countries that want to be something more than they are.
Potato purchasing power?
EU, a union covering most of a continent, has a similar gpd to a country the size of said continent
After WW2, when Europe is weak, America under right-minded leaders shoulders up the responsibilities of maintianing the world stability and peace. Now America is weakening daily under a madman’s leadership, it’s time for Europe to stand up and lead the world forward, preserving the human civilization’s precious values.
Let the trade wars begin!
I am sorry but what’s the point of all these posts? Burying our head in the sand and pretending everything is fine? Go check the trends of US. vs EU. GDP, in PPP or not in PPP. There is an undeniable slow economic decline in Europe that you need to be blind not to see – today China and the US compete on AI, Tech, anything that amounts to actual innovation. Where is Europe? OF course, it’s still an economically relevant block of countries. It’s still a great place to live by world’s standards. But what’s the point of being happy with mediocrity?
GDP is a garbage metric
lol PPP can’t be calculated. The deflator or inflator used is entirely subjective and varies based on who is doing it. And giant countries like the U.S. and EU vary drastically.
Additionally, nominal matters because most goods are not priced based on where you live. We all pay the same for oil, gold, iPhones, etc.
And then you bring in per capita, where China has 4X the population as the U.S. and the EU has 150 million more people – meaning the average person is much poorer.
PPP is a very special tool for extremely narrow use cases. Don’t use unless you know exactly what you do.
EU need to start acting like a superpower and harness the immense collective power at its disposal. Energy independence, large scale tech investment and defence & security need to be priorities.
For this to be meaningful you’d have to look at it per capita