Gli esperti hanno colpito i pasti a scuola calda “ultra elaborata” prima dell’espansione del programma
https://www.thejournal.ie/a-slippery-slope-teachers-and-nutritionists-hit-out-at-ultra-processed-hot-school-meals-6595745-Feb2025/
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That’s why my child’s bones are so brittle.
Only seen the remnants of these dinners that my niece and nephew bring home, and it looks like airplane food from the 80’s
“Experts” or Experts?
It’s a good start with lots of room for improvement. It ensures kids are fed every day, which is the primary goal, but the quality of food is questionable. I was particularly concerned when the meal my kids had ordered for the day the school was closed for the storm was served to them the following Monday. There’s also this kind of vegetable goujon think that they serve which I don’t think any kid has eaten.
The vast majority of parents should be feeding their own children. These meals are for children with parents who either can’t or won’t feed their children properly.
For those children any meal is better than no meal. And the quality could be increased if the budget went for the few who need it rather than wasted on the children of parents who can afford to feed their children.
If you don’t need it don’t be taking up resources that could lead to better quality food if iit was targeted at only those who actually do need it.
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You should see the lunches in Japanese schools and universities; eg healthy bowl of miso soup, cup of green tea, some rice meat and veg – only €3
They’re letting perfect be the enemy of good. This was meant to be for kids in Dublin living in genuine, untold poverty and now the D4 mammies are complaining about things like fat and calorie content.
Have you ever thought that this was exactly what some of these kids need? 8 year old me really really needed this.
The main reason we’re doing it this way is because most schools don’t have any kind of cafeteria or food prep facilities.
We are historically one of the few developed countries who *don’t* feed children during the school day, so this is about addressing that. There are plenty of good reasons why it’s a good idea for children to be fed in this way versus packed lunches – even for wealthy families.
The scheme is being expanded because for the most part parents and schools are happy with what it’s offering and how well it’s working. Any parents I’ve spoken to have said they’re happy with it and the kids are eating lots of stuff they wouldn’t touch at home.
As another commenter says, it’s important to not let perfect be the enemy of good.
The longer-term plan here is provide funding to retrofit cafeterias into schools so meals can be prepared on-site.
But people are still going to complain about them too, and about the food being served.
I’m fascinated though by the links they’ve tried to make in the article. The sample menu shows some pretty straightforward lunch-type meals.
They speak to a “food policy consultant” who raises concerns about the money being spent and the single-use containers (fair).
They speak to the HSE lead for obesity, and clearly asked him some pretty generic questions about “ultra-processed foods”
But the bulk of the comments are attributed to a teacher from Artane, who is also a “nutritionist”. This means that food and nutrition is a hobby of his and he has no actual qualifications in it.
And he’s quoted as claiming that “everyone knows it’s awful but they’re afraid to say it in case the scheme is cancelled”, and making unprovable claims about kids eating too many calories and being at risk of heart disease and high blood pressure.
It sounds to me like this one teacher contacted a journalist claiming to be an expert who was concerned about the scheme, and they ran with the story, bulking it out a little by contacting a couple of other people
I dunno about the rest of you but I had some sort of juice or Mi Wadi and a white bread sandwich for the vast majority of my Primary days.
Then beans on toast or a toasted sandwich after walking home for the Secondary school days.
I tihnk one intention of this is that children who may not be getting a good/substantial dinner get a substantial meal earlier in the day? Is that it?
When did we get to the point that it was this widely accepted to be incapable of feeding your own children? We should not be normalising this.
This is just a scheme to funnel more tax payers money into the hands of business owners who do not give a toss.
By all accounts the food wastage is very high in these schemes and the food itself isn’t good.
https://youtu.be/5gGZqm5dnmc?si=owmJ4qNosRlvtCGG
Very good documentary. Everyone should watch. It’s an eye-opener.
My school didn’t even have a canteen, let alone hot meals. We ate in our classrooms and walked to the shop if we wanted food.
Some food is better than none at all. If you don’t want your child eating it then don’t allow them to.
Department of health should draw a framework for department of education to embed and follow.. hot meals quality throughout the country is a tad inconsistent as of now
Yeah they should be given medium rare steaks worth €1500 a piece like they do in European schools for €2.50
JFC there’s so much wrong even just in the headline.
I have seen a couple of comments that are very critical of parents – and especially mothers – who aren’t happy about the quality of food on offer, as if they should just shut up and take anything. Is that because they’re parents? Or women with the utter temerity to have an opinion? What’s the problem with people thinking that children should have the best and healthiest food?
They had a very easily reicated system that works amazingly in Japan, and chose not to choose it because it wouldn’t be profitable enough for the people who know the right people.
[How the Japanese do school lunch](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xYsUPoQVs&t=24s&pp=2AEYkAIBygUSamFwYW4gc2Nob29sIGx1bmNo)
It seems awfully inefficient and wasteful to have vans traversing the roads delivering meals to thousands of schools, most of which is not eaten from what I understand.