This partially a response to the current “China’s Nuclear Energy Boom vs. Germany’s Total Phase-Out” posts (see second picture), I thought it would be more insightful to not just take the raw TWh but to put it into perspective by using their overall share in their energy consumption.
Edit: Changed “their overall share in their grid.” to “their energy consumption.”
testicle_cooker on
This makes no sense. China power consumption dwarfs German, so much smaller percentage will actually create the same carbon offset effect.
What matters is reducing every ton of carbon emitted in the atmosphere, for that percentage of nuclear is irrelevant, installed capacity is what matters.
Trang0ul on
Nuclear energy is the only thing that unites oil companies and environmental activists. And we can see the result in Germany.
carefatman on
I wish my GF would love me as much as r/europe loves nuclear. (not talking to OP)
Primary energy consumption means that you count the 75% waste in combustion engines and burning stuff for heating. It’s a useful comparison for current consumption, but not its replacement.
Live_Menu_7404 on
It‘s not that nuclear power plants are particularly harmful to the environment or dangerous if managed properly, but with the rules and regulations in place in Europe they‘re simply prohibitively expensive compared to other environmentally friendly means of power generation.
Lyzzze on
Nuclear energy is an expensive form of energy and a burden on future generations. Come to terms with it r/europe
garry_the_commie on
So China can definitely do better in growing its nuclear power production. But Germany killed it off entirely. This graph is no less of an embarassment for Germany than the previous one.
VirtuaMcPolygon on
Sums up the energy crisis problem in Europe
ParticularFix2104 on
This still makes Germany look horrible
JonathanUpp on
Nuclear power is the cleanest on demand power supply, and extremely safe, it’s way safer then coal, oil, gas and even hydro if managed correctly.
The argument that you can’t store used fuel is a stupid argument, because we know what to do but we’ve decided that we should not fix it, and then we don’t have a solution so we can’t have Nuclear
CluelessReckless on
they either gonna recreate Chernobyl or be the First economic power in no time.
by the looks of it, China knows what it’s doing.
ejurmann on
Sad sign of europe’s decline
Jesusspanksmydog on
Soooooomewhweeere over the rainbow. I want to take a shit. My loins are aching and my bowels explode.
Mankka72 on
In one of my first year lectures about energy technology in uni the professor showed graphs about energy production for all kinds and China was dominating. Guess that’s what happens when you kick dirt under the fridge and now Europe is green. Nothing changed besides just Europe getting poorer.
DouglasQUAID88 on
Would genuinely love to hear where green baseload electricity is supposed to come from if you exclude nuclear energy. Only thing I’ve heard is a battery technology that doesn’t exist yet.
Seems insane to exclude nuclear as a temporary solution.
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This partially a response to the current “China’s Nuclear Energy Boom vs. Germany’s Total Phase-Out” posts (see second picture), I thought it would be more insightful to not just take the raw TWh but to put it into perspective by using their overall share in their energy consumption.
Edit: Changed “their overall share in their grid.” to “their energy consumption.”
This makes no sense. China power consumption dwarfs German, so much smaller percentage will actually create the same carbon offset effect.
What matters is reducing every ton of carbon emitted in the atmosphere, for that percentage of nuclear is irrelevant, installed capacity is what matters.
Nuclear energy is the only thing that unites oil companies and environmental activists. And we can see the result in Germany.
I wish my GF would love me as much as r/europe loves nuclear. (not talking to OP)
Now show renewable energy!
[China surpassed Germany in emissions per capita](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?time=1920..latest&country=CHN~DEU). So it’s going well i see.
Primary energy consumption means that you count the 75% waste in combustion engines and burning stuff for heating. It’s a useful comparison for current consumption, but not its replacement.
It‘s not that nuclear power plants are particularly harmful to the environment or dangerous if managed properly, but with the rules and regulations in place in Europe they‘re simply prohibitively expensive compared to other environmentally friendly means of power generation.
Nuclear energy is an expensive form of energy and a burden on future generations. Come to terms with it r/europe
So China can definitely do better in growing its nuclear power production. But Germany killed it off entirely. This graph is no less of an embarassment for Germany than the previous one.
Sums up the energy crisis problem in Europe
This still makes Germany look horrible
Nuclear power is the cleanest on demand power supply, and extremely safe, it’s way safer then coal, oil, gas and even hydro if managed correctly.
The argument that you can’t store used fuel is a stupid argument, because we know what to do but we’ve decided that we should not fix it, and then we don’t have a solution so we can’t have Nuclear
they either gonna recreate Chernobyl or be the First economic power in no time.
by the looks of it, China knows what it’s doing.
Sad sign of europe’s decline
Soooooomewhweeere over the rainbow. I want to take a shit. My loins are aching and my bowels explode.
In one of my first year lectures about energy technology in uni the professor showed graphs about energy production for all kinds and China was dominating. Guess that’s what happens when you kick dirt under the fridge and now Europe is green. Nothing changed besides just Europe getting poorer.
Would genuinely love to hear where green baseload electricity is supposed to come from if you exclude nuclear energy. Only thing I’ve heard is a battery technology that doesn’t exist yet.
Seems insane to exclude nuclear as a temporary solution.