It’s already happening if you leave Reddit for a minute
FoundationNegative56 on
Ok that not going to end well for them good luck taking over Ukraine
AllyMcfeels on
Vox in Spain already governs in municipalities and in some regions, also in collaboration with the PP (belonging to the PPE group). The word is, continuity, from old policies already known to everyone, neoliberalism (not to be confused with American linearism).
They have not fixed the housing problem in their regions and cities, they have not regulated anything in terms of labor and they have not recognized that in the main region that they govern, illegal immigration is promoted by precisely the agricultural exploiters who support them.
So, their propaganda is hypocritical and demogogue as it always has been in the last 40 years. His rhetoric is reactionary as reactionary movements against liberal policies have always been in the last ∼150 years or more (In Spain, reactionary blows have been suffered against liberal policies since the fall of the absolute monarchy).
They have never provided anything new and have not provided any solution. Their best asset is that the social democrats are in the same situation.
And also (and much funnier and ironic, as an example of the hypocrisy of these assholes), they are in the same Eurogroup with Salvini’s party, which supported the Catalan independentists for years and campaigned for the sigma, the Belgian party ‘Vlaams Belang’ that helped Puigdemont… etc etc.
Furthermore, within the VOX party there have been significant departures of politicians in the last 2 years.
ps: In Spain is one thing, I don’t know if it will differ from other European ones, the extreme right in Spain is eminently anti-Anglo-Saxon (especially in the ultra-Catholic nationalists, it also exists in the extreme left, it is ‘very funny’ sometimes to see them agree at the same points), and they have many ‘influencers’ actively campaigning to feed that narrative. And they do not forgive the fact that the United States supports the Moroccan dictatorship. So, if Trump feeds the Moroccan regime (weapons, etc.) he can lose them in less time than it takes to blink.
Pleasethelions on
Looking at Trump, we need the opposite.
ObamaDerangementSynd on
American here. I’ll happily help y’all fight off your Nazis once I defend Canada from American Nazis.
jelhmb48 on
The only thing the left needs to do to win elections is be strict on immigration, multiculturalism and take the problems of young white men serious. That’s it. But they’ve got their heads stuck up their ass far too deep.
HungRy_Hungarian11 on
I love how Europe’s far right isn’t even about nationalism, it’s about taking over the country and being subjugated to russia.
Pretty un-nationalistic to me (is that a real word?)
I guess mussolini was a btch to hitler but it’s just funny to me.
I get the allure about russia if they were actually projecting strength. But ukraine has made them an absolute laughingstock.
Once feared military and now can’t even take over ukraine, the feared black sea fleet pretty much defunct, kursk partly taken, and they’re transporting their soldiers in donkeys and camels. I can go on forever.
And yet, they still want to be enslaved by russia.
europe does need to be stricter in immigration though and housing. it’s what drives people to far right politics anywhere in the Western world. US, Canada, Europe
bjornbamse on
To balance them we need a new wave of populist left – anti-rich, anti-oligarch, anti-woke, pro-working class
danrokk on
I’m really struggling to predict how 2025/2026 will look like.
Balbuto on
We will defend democracy with our lives! Fuck the far right!
harry6466 on
Brace yourselves for the AFD bots who are brigading this subs trying to gaslight you. Also the ones who will respond to this comment.
If my comment has many downvotes in a few moments, you know they’re here.
AlarmApprehensive511 on
This entire year is a fucking joke and it’s only February.
Voyager10112 on
You can do better. My 6 year old can do better than America is doing right now.
OkAsk1472 on
They tried that once before. It did not end well for them.
zhangmake on
Absolutely wild that anyone is looking at the US and thinking “yep that’s what we need”.
Kofu on
Reconquer? You can really see the lack of education with these mups. The never conquered it to begin with, all they had was a brief time of relevancy, then smashed back to the abyss.
If Europe hasn’t yet learned from places like Hungary and Russia, learn from the US. If necessary, set aside the law to prevent these people gaining power, because once they have it the law will mean nothing.
AnxEng on
I’m convinced that very few people actually like the far right. What they like is the fact that they promise to actually do something and then follow through, and they focus on the living standards of the nation that they actually represent, rather than some vague notion of the global good.
If the centre could just take people’s views on mass migration seriously and actually act strongly to stop it they would kill 90% of support for the far right.
enterado12345 on
Traitors
Dragon2906 on
Reqonquering Europe means ethically cleansing Europe for them and their supporters, nothing else. Attempts to do do that won’t remain peaceful
TungstenPaladin on
Instead of looking at the far right, maybe look at their voting base? Young men all over the Western world are breaking for the far right…hard. Gen Z and Gen Alpha are probably the first generations that are more conservative than the preceding generations. These young men are breaking for the far right for a wide variety of reasons. If we don’t want a far right takeover, then we should be addressing their grievances.
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Over my dead body.
They are succeeding.
It’s already happening if you leave Reddit for a minute
Ok that not going to end well for them good luck taking over Ukraine
Vox in Spain already governs in municipalities and in some regions, also in collaboration with the PP (belonging to the PPE group). The word is, continuity, from old policies already known to everyone, neoliberalism (not to be confused with American linearism).
They have not fixed the housing problem in their regions and cities, they have not regulated anything in terms of labor and they have not recognized that in the main region that they govern, illegal immigration is promoted by precisely the agricultural exploiters who support them.
So, their propaganda is hypocritical and demogogue as it always has been in the last 40 years. His rhetoric is reactionary as reactionary movements against liberal policies have always been in the last ∼150 years or more (In Spain, reactionary blows have been suffered against liberal policies since the fall of the absolute monarchy).
They have never provided anything new and have not provided any solution. Their best asset is that the social democrats are in the same situation.
And also (and much funnier and ironic, as an example of the hypocrisy of these assholes), they are in the same Eurogroup with Salvini’s party, which supported the Catalan independentists for years and campaigned for the sigma, the Belgian party ‘Vlaams Belang’ that helped Puigdemont… etc etc.
Furthermore, within the VOX party there have been significant departures of politicians in the last 2 years.
ps: In Spain is one thing, I don’t know if it will differ from other European ones, the extreme right in Spain is eminently anti-Anglo-Saxon (especially in the ultra-Catholic nationalists, it also exists in the extreme left, it is ‘very funny’ sometimes to see them agree at the same points), and they have many ‘influencers’ actively campaigning to feed that narrative. And they do not forgive the fact that the United States supports the Moroccan dictatorship. So, if Trump feeds the Moroccan regime (weapons, etc.) he can lose them in less time than it takes to blink.
Looking at Trump, we need the opposite.
American here. I’ll happily help y’all fight off your Nazis once I defend Canada from American Nazis.
The only thing the left needs to do to win elections is be strict on immigration, multiculturalism and take the problems of young white men serious. That’s it. But they’ve got their heads stuck up their ass far too deep.
I love how Europe’s far right isn’t even about nationalism, it’s about taking over the country and being subjugated to russia.
Pretty un-nationalistic to me (is that a real word?)
I guess mussolini was a btch to hitler but it’s just funny to me.
I get the allure about russia if they were actually projecting strength. But ukraine has made them an absolute laughingstock.
Once feared military and now can’t even take over ukraine, the feared black sea fleet pretty much defunct, kursk partly taken, and they’re transporting their soldiers in donkeys and camels. I can go on forever.
And yet, they still want to be enslaved by russia.
europe does need to be stricter in immigration though and housing. it’s what drives people to far right politics anywhere in the Western world. US, Canada, Europe
To balance them we need a new wave of populist left – anti-rich, anti-oligarch, anti-woke, pro-working class
I’m really struggling to predict how 2025/2026 will look like.
We will defend democracy with our lives! Fuck the far right!
Brace yourselves for the AFD bots who are brigading this subs trying to gaslight you. Also the ones who will respond to this comment.
If my comment has many downvotes in a few moments, you know they’re here.
This entire year is a fucking joke and it’s only February.
You can do better. My 6 year old can do better than America is doing right now.
They tried that once before. It did not end well for them.
Absolutely wild that anyone is looking at the US and thinking “yep that’s what we need”.
Reconquer? You can really see the lack of education with these mups. The never conquered it to begin with, all they had was a brief time of relevancy, then smashed back to the abyss.
Look to the US and see what awaits you if the far right gets hold of the government. We had a Representative in the House put forth an ammendment that would allow Trump, a 2 term president, (and only Trump, the document is carefully worded so Obama/Bush can’t run again) the opportunity to run for a 3rd term https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term
We had our Vice-President challenge the constitutional order and separation of powers with this tweet: https://x.com/JDVance/status/1888607143030391287
If Europe hasn’t yet learned from places like Hungary and Russia, learn from the US. If necessary, set aside the law to prevent these people gaining power, because once they have it the law will mean nothing.
I’m convinced that very few people actually like the far right. What they like is the fact that they promise to actually do something and then follow through, and they focus on the living standards of the nation that they actually represent, rather than some vague notion of the global good.
If the centre could just take people’s views on mass migration seriously and actually act strongly to stop it they would kill 90% of support for the far right.
Traitors
Reqonquering Europe means ethically cleansing Europe for them and their supporters, nothing else. Attempts to do do that won’t remain peaceful
Instead of looking at the far right, maybe look at their voting base? Young men all over the Western world are breaking for the far right…hard. Gen Z and Gen Alpha are probably the first generations that are more conservative than the preceding generations. These young men are breaking for the far right for a wide variety of reasons. If we don’t want a far right takeover, then we should be addressing their grievances.
Except they won’t.