Innanzitutto mi dispiace se questo è il sub sbagliato, ho fatto del mio meglio per trovarne uno che si adatta di più. Ho solo bisogno di una prospettiva.
Ci sono così tanti strumenti per verificare quale partito dovresti votare. Ho usato 6 siti diversi. Ora al "Strano" Parte: per essere sicuro di quale sia uno "L’Uno" L’ho analizzato con Excel, usando il mio sistema di punteggio (più confronti più è più alto il valore). Ovviamente leggerò prima i loro programmi per essere sicuro di ciò che sceglierò. Ma questo è importante per me, sapere che ho fatto tutto il possibile per scegliere una festa di cui mi fido di più.
Il motivo per cui sto pubblicando questo è che ho sentito così tante persone che non sono disposte a leggere i programmi, anche le versioni brevi, per sapere effettivamente per cosa stanno votando. Stanno solo votando in base a ciò che ascoltano / vogliono sentire. Che è spesso solo una piccola parte.
Un’altra discussione è stata che alcuni stanno sostenendo che quegli strumenti sono manipolati, perché i loro risultati non sono quelli che si aspettavano. Forse perché il loro gruppo preferito non è quello che pensano che sia?
Se votano e sanno cosa stanno votando per la sua scelta. Ma non sapere nulla e votare per frustrazione è sbagliato … Voglio dire, non devono fare lo stesso sforzo nella scelta come me, ma è sbagliato aspettarsi che almeno ottengano l’intero quadro?
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di bored_Kampfzwerg
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I can appreciate a good spreadsheet. Well done OP.
i don’t understand your table.
i think the tools are often over simplified. There are questions with too short answers without really adressing the underlying issues and solutions. So to many questions i agree with most answers on that simple level but often stongly disagree with the more detailed solutions which often are not displayed in those tools. I only know the more detailed proposition of the parties based on their programs and their public appearences, mostly in political talk shows.
Going by the result of most tools i should vote for a party i really dont agree with most points outside of the questions asked within those tools. So i think, it is not very far fetched, that some people feel like the tools influence the recommended vote by designing the questions in a certain way. I am not saying that this is done on purpose in any form!
adressing your last point: I totally agree with you. People really should take the time and look into things. Sadly i know a lot of people just ignoring politics for 4 years, click through Wahl-o-mat one time before the election and vote based on that single result.
Thing is, you can absolutely not vote for any parties program at all. The problem i see is, that many parties will campaign about a stronger, richer, more secure and free germany, but thats just talking. Its populism. Its what the people want to hear.
What you should vote for is which party seems to be the most ethical, authentic, rational, credible etc. THATS all that counts. I mean sure, if “some party” has “firing up new coal plants and reverting nature protection measures” in their agenda, that SHOULD turn you off if you care about coming generations. But DO NOT vote for some party just because they promise you anything. Because half the parties just want to get to power and do not even care about the means to get (and stay) there all too much.
Edit: And thats why from my POV sites like the “Wahlomat” are a terrible idea! They play right in the hands of the worst populists who just say whatever people want to hear to get voted. There is no easy way around doing some work and get your own impression of which party can be trusted. Its your citizens duty to actually know the parties you vote for.
I don’t really understand what your question is? You want perspective on what exactly?
You never should just rely on tools like the Wahl-O-Mat. The best example is the Piraten Party. If you have a high score with them but are not interested in data protection (Datenschutz) then you are missing their core point. But they are helpfull to give you some.odeas what migt be a good fit.
There are videos with some politicians who try to get 100% with their own party and most of them get really high scores (95+) so i think it is safe to say, that the questions represent the partys fully (not mentioning the insane big research team behind all of that and that the answers are from the partys directly).
Also you habe two votes in Germany. So the person you vote for with your “erst Stimme” also matters, not just his party. There is always the opinion of the party and the opinion of the politician.
I think it’s “wrong” to expect people to properly inform themselves about the parties they may or may not vote for. Not everyone has the time for it and those that do don’t always have the mental capacity for it, or they’re simply too ignorant. You may hold them accountable for that but expectations usually come with a bit more self-evidence, like it’s normal for people to inform themselves, which it unfortunately is not. So I think it’d be more right to “hope” rather than “expect” people inform themselves, helps with the inevitable feelings of disappointment later on lol. Nice spreadsheet btw, would actually like to see the uncensored version but I understand why you’ve censored it.
There’s no right method, and I am sure yours is fine, but one thing to bear in mind is that party programmes are a form of propaganda. They are not legally binding – increasingly not even morally so! And once coalition negotiations take place, almost anything can happen, even to the most prominent electoral pledges.
That’s not to say one shouldn’t read the programmes, but it is also perfectly reasonable to just consider the personalities and likely coalitions and to go more on the “feeling” you get from exposure to these people and parties regarding how they are likely to govern.
Yes, it is wrong.
The good part about a democracy and free and secret elections is, that every one can choose themselves, how they handle their decisions.
You seem to expect everyone to be like you. Just respect that other people do it the way they like.
And the tools you mentioned: don’t depend on them for decision making 😂
They are nice to play around, but that’s all.