This is horrible. Trump is basically saying give us your valuable resources or we will let Russia off the leash. Ukraine needs to say no to any deal like this. Europe needs to step up right now and let the U.S. go isolate itself. Be great if Canada could help given their situation with the U.S. right now.
ForwardPersonality23 on
You trust Trump, then you are dead.
swollen_foreskin on
Zelensky does what he can to protect his people, while Europe watches and wags their finger
CarrotWeird70 on
If Ukraine can go back to the 2021 borders and keep sanctions on Russia then I think this is ultimately a win. Ukraine is likely never getting Crimea back. Russia will still struggle with a sanctioned economy and the rebuilding efforts in Ukraine will take years.
Exploiting these resources is years out and hopefully by then Trump will be dead or out of office and/or Europe is strong enough to push America back out of the continent.
dustofdeath on
Nato membership gives security guarantees too.
But that doesn’t benefit Trump.
Entire_Classroom_263 on
The american vulture has landed.
Wonderful-Lack3846 on
Typical America
Even before Trump 😉
anon58588 on
KYIV, Feb 12 (Reuters) – U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent visited Kyiv on Wednesday to discuss a critical minerals deal as Ukraine vies to win the backing of U.S. President Donald Trump at a perilous diplomatic juncture in the war with Russia.
Bessent, the first cabinet-level official in Trump’s team to visit Ukraine, is certain to meet President Volodymyr Zelenskiy who has said he is open to a deal with Washington and hopes he can obtain U.S. security guarantees to end the war with Russia.
The visit came hours after Kyiv’s residents were awoken by a predawn Russian ballistic missile attack that killed one person in the city as the sound of explosions rang out.
Trump, who wants a rapid end to the bloodshed but has not said whether he will continue vital military assistance to Kyiv, has said he wants $500 billion in rare earth minerals from Ukraine and that Washington’s support needs to be “secured”.
Zelenskiy set out the contours of a deal in a Reuters interview last week, unfurling a map showing numerous mineral deposits and saying he was offering a mutually beneficial partnership to develop them jointly and not “giving them away”.
A U.S. source with knowledge of the matter said Bessent, a former hedge fund manager, would use the visit to discuss a strategic minerals agreement that would also include energy resources, energy assets and state-owned enterprises.
Those remarks could refer in part to another idea to use Ukraine’s vast underground storage sites to store U.S. natural gas for Europe, something Zelenskiy has said is being discussed by Kyiv and the White House.
The source said that an agreement would give the United States an interest in both the security and economic future of Ukraine.
The visit is a tangible sign of real U.S. interest in Ukraine that will be welcomed by an anxious Kyiv that is watching nervously at how the Trump team has been engaging with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
On Tuesday, Russia freed a U.S. prisoner after a visit to Moscow by U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff, the first known senior U.S. official to travel to Russia since before the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
The prospective minerals deal shows how Ukraine has rapidly reset its foreign policy approach to align with the transactional world view set out by the new occupant of the White House, Ukraine’s most important wartime ally.
diamanthaende on
This is called racketeering and protection money, one of the oldest businesses of organised crime.
Trump-US truly starting to resemble Putin’s mafia state.
BuddyBroDude on
Don’t trust a word from his mouth
wordswillneverhurtme on
he wants to turn ukraine into a colony. EU needs to actually do something. We have the economy for a huge army…
rayz13 on
Anyone here believes the US will get involved if russians push, say, to Estonia?
flimflammedzimzammed on
Don’t believe a word out of the U.S.A
HumbleInspector9554 on
So the “security shield” is EU and UK peacekeepers that aren’t acting under NATO and therefore won’t activate article 5. SO the question is, what security shield, what actively would the US do when russia attacks again?
BMP83 on
If is as good as a deal as the Budapest Memorandum….
daiaomori on
That’s… protection money.
Trump and his friends are just a racket shaking up the neighborhood.
No_Heart_SoD on
And if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you!
F U MAFIOSO WANKER
CANYUXEL on
The irony is the US’s been doing this exact deal for a long time now. With the orange man it’s more transparent and obvious, part of his balls-out strategy
Jealous_Big_8655 on
Sure lol
ItsTom___ on
“Thief-Taker General”
Movykappa on
So Europe defends Ukraine and Trump gets the gems AHAH what the fuck is this shit
dnemonicterrier on
And if they give him what he wants he’ll probably double cross Ukraine, Trump cannot be trusted.
Affectionate_Cat293 on
I actually start to think that this whole war is not about NATO (as often argued by Mearsheimer) or EU membership, but rather about control of mineral resources. In the last months, Russia was focusing so much on Pokrovsk, and it turns out the Velyka Novosilka area, which was recently conquered by Russia, has an abundant rare earth deposit. Putin also decided to go to the negotiating table the moment Zelenskyy made a deal to give the United States access to mineral extraction on Ukrainian territory worth about US$500 billion in exchange for military aid.
As a Ukrainian I have better solution. Give right to mine resources to Europian companies with bonds to pay to USA.
Cause his demand for ~500 billion resources for a little more then 100 billion previous assistant and current behavior is diabolic.
As per him, Europe should protect Ukraine – Europe should get right to mine resources. Pretty logical.
Dank_Dispenser on
Anybody acting like this wasn’t the US strategy all along is naive. Blackrock and Vangaurd have already been posturing to finance reconstruction, there’s a number of companies who see nothing but profit from this chaos
We haven’t been arming the Ukrainians for a steady and decisive victory, we’ve been slow dripping weapons to make this Russias version of Vietnam, to degrade their military capacity and to have the sanctions take effect over a long period of time to cripple their economy.
People should never trust that Americans are here to help out of the goodness of their hearts
Sky_HUN on
The differnce between Trump’s word and rare Earth metals is, that those metals worth something.
BiffChildFromBangor on
Trump is just a crook posing as a politician. Pure and simple.
No-Dragonfruit6948 on
In Finland we give our rare earth metals to foreign companies even there isn’t war and we get pennies for euro, so it is not that bad of a deal.
Limp_Acanthisitta412 on
The Don……kiss my ring
AstraMilanoobum on
I mean, at any point the EU could have stepped up and helped Ukraine win this war. And this is a European war that should have been handled by Europeans.
But your governments didn’t, as they have no interest in taking any of the steps necessary to defeat Russia.
Trumps a piece of shit but on this issue , I don’t entirely fault him. The EUs plan seems to be to supply Ukraine just enough to keep the stalemate going.
danrokk on
OK so to summarize:
What Ukraine gives:
– Ukraine gives up territory
– Ukraine gives up ambition to join NATO
– Ukraine gives $500B to US
What Ukraine gets:
– nothing.
Candid-Sky-3709 on
LOL – remember the **Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances (1994)** …The memorandum focused on security assurances in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons, with **commitments from Russia, the U.S., and the U.K. to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity**. However, it did not address Ukraine’s future military alliances or geopolitical orientation.
Fast forward to: Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in February–March 2014.
Followed by: Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, 2022.
Conclusion: avoid all promises of commitments from the Budapest memorandum countries as “hell no”
Oxu90 on
Security quarantees are just toilet paper. Ukraine already had one from USA…and Russia.
DefInnit on
Then the US should send the 200,000 peacekeepers Zelensky is asking for.
SHITBLAST3000 on
This contradicts what was said earlier. For this to happen U.S troops would have to be in Ukraine to secure the border with NATO to get those minerals.
DerekTheComedian on
Literally a protection racket.
Large_Squirrel1446 on
Knew it…we (US) should be ashamed
restrusher on
We all know the kid, on the playground, who forced smaller kids to give up their lunch money in exchange for “protection.” We all know that if the kid didn’t comply, he’d have two bullies after him instead of just one. It’s called extortion, and when it’s done to countries actively being invaded, it’s many lives that are being threatened.
BadOdd1861 on
You mean like how they gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for your security guarantees? America is a backstabbing hyena of a country that cannot be trusted. (I wish the best of luck to Taiwan. NEVER give Americans your chip manufacturing secrets!)
MITOX-3 on
The fact that they so openly admit the true American way is both frightening and somewhat calming at the same time.
It also means some center parties and governing parties in Europe might have some explaining to do with regards to being a US puppet and claiming we have not been one.
Firm_Organization382 on
Area 51 need the rare minerals to build the ufo engines.
Own_Event_4363 on
I mean you could do a security shield now…
tyger2020 on
Ah, America using war to further its own goals and position in the world
name a more iconic duo
CashComprehensive423 on
The Trump agreement.
Signed a free trade agreement, now that is busted because of Trump.
Says one thing, does another.
More lies than another President.
Bailed on the Kurds.
Working against the laws of the USA.
Buddy, buddy with Putin.
Tread lightly Ukraine.
Sell those critical metals very slowly after you have peace
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This is horrible. Trump is basically saying give us your valuable resources or we will let Russia off the leash. Ukraine needs to say no to any deal like this. Europe needs to step up right now and let the U.S. go isolate itself. Be great if Canada could help given their situation with the U.S. right now.
You trust Trump, then you are dead.
Zelensky does what he can to protect his people, while Europe watches and wags their finger
If Ukraine can go back to the 2021 borders and keep sanctions on Russia then I think this is ultimately a win. Ukraine is likely never getting Crimea back. Russia will still struggle with a sanctioned economy and the rebuilding efforts in Ukraine will take years.
Exploiting these resources is years out and hopefully by then Trump will be dead or out of office and/or Europe is strong enough to push America back out of the continent.
Nato membership gives security guarantees too.
But that doesn’t benefit Trump.
The american vulture has landed.
Typical America
Even before Trump 😉
KYIV, Feb 12 (Reuters) – U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent visited Kyiv on Wednesday to discuss a critical minerals deal as Ukraine vies to win the backing of U.S. President Donald Trump at a perilous diplomatic juncture in the war with Russia.
Bessent, the first cabinet-level official in Trump’s team to visit Ukraine, is certain to meet President Volodymyr Zelenskiy who has said he is open to a deal with Washington and hopes he can obtain U.S. security guarantees to end the war with Russia.
The visit came hours after Kyiv’s residents were awoken by a predawn Russian ballistic missile attack that killed one person in the city as the sound of explosions rang out.
Trump, who wants a rapid end to the bloodshed but has not said whether he will continue vital military assistance to Kyiv, has said he wants $500 billion in rare earth minerals from Ukraine and that Washington’s support needs to be “secured”.
Zelenskiy set out the contours of a deal in a Reuters interview last week, unfurling a map showing numerous mineral deposits and saying he was offering a mutually beneficial partnership to develop them jointly and not “giving them away”.
A U.S. source with knowledge of the matter said Bessent, a former hedge fund manager, would use the visit to discuss a strategic minerals agreement that would also include energy resources, energy assets and state-owned enterprises.
Those remarks could refer in part to another idea to use Ukraine’s vast underground storage sites to store U.S. natural gas for Europe, something Zelenskiy has said is being discussed by Kyiv and the White House.
The source said that an agreement would give the United States an interest in both the security and economic future of Ukraine.
The visit is a tangible sign of real U.S. interest in Ukraine that will be welcomed by an anxious Kyiv that is watching nervously at how the Trump team has been engaging with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
On Tuesday, Russia freed a U.S. prisoner after a visit to Moscow by U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff, the first known senior U.S. official to travel to Russia since before the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
The prospective minerals deal shows how Ukraine has rapidly reset its foreign policy approach to align with the transactional world view set out by the new occupant of the White House, Ukraine’s most important wartime ally.
This is called racketeering and protection money, one of the oldest businesses of organised crime.
Trump-US truly starting to resemble Putin’s mafia state.
Don’t trust a word from his mouth
he wants to turn ukraine into a colony. EU needs to actually do something. We have the economy for a huge army…
Anyone here believes the US will get involved if russians push, say, to Estonia?
Don’t believe a word out of the U.S.A
So the “security shield” is EU and UK peacekeepers that aren’t acting under NATO and therefore won’t activate article 5. SO the question is, what security shield, what actively would the US do when russia attacks again?
If is as good as a deal as the Budapest Memorandum….
That’s… protection money.
Trump and his friends are just a racket shaking up the neighborhood.
And if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you!
F U MAFIOSO WANKER
The irony is the US’s been doing this exact deal for a long time now. With the orange man it’s more transparent and obvious, part of his balls-out strategy
Sure lol
“Thief-Taker General”
So Europe defends Ukraine and Trump gets the gems AHAH what the fuck is this shit
And if they give him what he wants he’ll probably double cross Ukraine, Trump cannot be trusted.
I actually start to think that this whole war is not about NATO (as often argued by Mearsheimer) or EU membership, but rather about control of mineral resources. In the last months, Russia was focusing so much on Pokrovsk, and it turns out the Velyka Novosilka area, which was recently conquered by Russia, has an abundant rare earth deposit. Putin also decided to go to the negotiating table the moment Zelenskyy made a deal to give the United States access to mineral extraction on Ukrainian territory worth about US$500 billion in exchange for military aid.
Here is an article from 2022 arguing that the invasion was motivated by the desire to take over the natural resources of Ukraine:
https://www.mei.edu/publications/ukraines-critical-minerals-and-europes-energy-transition-motivation-russian-aggression
As a Ukrainian I have better solution. Give right to mine resources to Europian companies with bonds to pay to USA.
Cause his demand for ~500 billion resources for a little more then 100 billion previous assistant and current behavior is diabolic.
As per him, Europe should protect Ukraine – Europe should get right to mine resources. Pretty logical.
Anybody acting like this wasn’t the US strategy all along is naive. Blackrock and Vangaurd have already been posturing to finance reconstruction, there’s a number of companies who see nothing but profit from this chaos
We haven’t been arming the Ukrainians for a steady and decisive victory, we’ve been slow dripping weapons to make this Russias version of Vietnam, to degrade their military capacity and to have the sanctions take effect over a long period of time to cripple their economy.
People should never trust that Americans are here to help out of the goodness of their hearts
The differnce between Trump’s word and rare Earth metals is, that those metals worth something.
Trump is just a crook posing as a politician. Pure and simple.
In Finland we give our rare earth metals to foreign companies even there isn’t war and we get pennies for euro, so it is not that bad of a deal.
The Don……kiss my ring
I mean, at any point the EU could have stepped up and helped Ukraine win this war. And this is a European war that should have been handled by Europeans.
But your governments didn’t, as they have no interest in taking any of the steps necessary to defeat Russia.
Trumps a piece of shit but on this issue , I don’t entirely fault him. The EUs plan seems to be to supply Ukraine just enough to keep the stalemate going.
OK so to summarize:
What Ukraine gives:
– Ukraine gives up territory
– Ukraine gives up ambition to join NATO
– Ukraine gives $500B to US
What Ukraine gets:
– nothing.
LOL – remember the **Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances (1994)** …The memorandum focused on security assurances in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons, with **commitments from Russia, the U.S., and the U.K. to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity**. However, it did not address Ukraine’s future military alliances or geopolitical orientation.
Fast forward to: Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in February–March 2014.
Followed by: Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, 2022.
Conclusion: avoid all promises of commitments from the Budapest memorandum countries as “hell no”
Security quarantees are just toilet paper. Ukraine already had one from USA…and Russia.
Then the US should send the 200,000 peacekeepers Zelensky is asking for.
This contradicts what was said earlier. For this to happen U.S troops would have to be in Ukraine to secure the border with NATO to get those minerals.
Literally a protection racket.
Knew it…we (US) should be ashamed
We all know the kid, on the playground, who forced smaller kids to give up their lunch money in exchange for “protection.” We all know that if the kid didn’t comply, he’d have two bullies after him instead of just one. It’s called extortion, and when it’s done to countries actively being invaded, it’s many lives that are being threatened.
You mean like how they gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for your security guarantees? America is a backstabbing hyena of a country that cannot be trusted. (I wish the best of luck to Taiwan. NEVER give Americans your chip manufacturing secrets!)
The fact that they so openly admit the true American way is both frightening and somewhat calming at the same time.
It also means some center parties and governing parties in Europe might have some explaining to do with regards to being a US puppet and claiming we have not been one.
Area 51 need the rare minerals to build the ufo engines.
I mean you could do a security shield now…
Ah, America using war to further its own goals and position in the world
name a more iconic duo
The Trump agreement.
Signed a free trade agreement, now that is busted because of Trump.
Says one thing, does another.
More lies than another President.
Bailed on the Kurds.
Working against the laws of the USA.
Buddy, buddy with Putin.
Tread lightly Ukraine.
Sell those critical metals very slowly after you have peace