Trumps capitulation is exactly what any sane non-maga person expected.
The cult will probably think they won and “ended the war”.
America desperately needs a total reform in education.
rantheman76 on
So, nothing new, basically?
Shot_Bison1140 on
Well.. USA capitulation is just a pretext to USA annexing something themselves in the near future..
geo_man_1 on
The Art of the Deal – give the other guy everything he wants.
Scary-Consequence-58 on
Europe capitulated having any say in the outcome of this war when it decided developing a military industrial complex and developing energy independence wasn’t important. Europe should be in the driver seat of these negotiations, not Trump. But Europe is weak, and therefore, doesn’t get a say.
XWasTheProblem on
Make America Pathetic Again
Zombie_Cool on
It’s only terrible deal making if the goal was to help America/Europe/Democracy.
Since Trump only cares about himself, it’s the chance to make the deal of a lifetime.
chub0ka on
Ukraine brought it in themselves. They still owe us 200bln dollars with no way to repay those
TeS_sKa on
USA dominance ends here, that’s a straight win for Russia if Ukraine loses the war
Trump may be a good businessman, but he’s terrible in politics/geopolitics
It’s time to say “Hello” to China on the world stage
Dreynard on
TBF, terrible dealmaking is Trump’s signature move. Anyone remember Afghanistan?
NoxAstrumis1 on
Is anyone under the impression that Trump is good at making deals?
JDWWV on
It is more than a betrayal of Ukraine. It is a betrayal of the international order that Americans helped create and that hundreds of thousands of Americans, British, French, Canadian, Australian etc. soldiers died for. And a betrayal of Ukraine.
Remarkable-Nebula-98 on
Trump is a genius. All the West had to do was capitulate. Who other than this stable genius could have figured this out.
lmaberley on
I’m pretty sure he just did exactly what he was hired to do.
vikiiingur on
just wondering, would withdrawing from all the F35 contracts be an appropriate response?
28-8modem on
Putin > I get to fuck him in the ass and make him swallow…
Good job Trump, good job…
The art of the deal lol.
Redditforgoit on
A heavily armed Europe that doesn’t care about tariffs because it’s just trying not get invaded, that won’t buy American weapons because it was betrayed, that will shut down all American soft power/influence/espionage social media and other software companies, essential parts of America’s full spectrum dominance, that will stop prioritizing human rights, because they don’t have that luxury any longer, so China can replace the US as market, and the restrictions to Mexico and LatAm trade gone. That will buy oil from Canada, so there’s another economic block out of the petrodollar system, feeding the endless American borrowing machine. A Europe in sum weakened economically but strengthened in resolved and no longer being influenced by or buying from the US. Specially if Trump goes after Greenland, which looks like it’s part of the deal with Russia, a new Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in the making.
I really fail to see the net gain for the US. All I see is isolation, brain drain (who wants to do research in a quasi theocracy that resents and does not finance scientists), high inflation, likely default on US debt (a move no one is talking about but which fits Trump like a glove) and without the dollar as reserve currency, hyper inflation and irrelevance.
Greasy-Chungus on
I still cringe at the thought of Zelensky boot licking Trump and Elon in that Lex interview.
I hope it was 100% fake and just saying what he needed to, and didn’t actually hedge even a single bet on Trump, and instead prepared to lose all US support.
Trump is threat to western democracy and our entire way of life, all because daddy didn’t love him.
MoreCommoner on
Pee pee tape.
beitnist on
stop crying over the little Nazi comedian
Melody_BasedLifeform on
“Terrible deal making” is assuming his interests align with that of the nation he is actively destroying.
He is making deals for himself alone.
sir_duckingtale on
Putin and Musk seem to have serious dirt on him
That makes him willing to betray his own country over it, and every other ally and other country too.
Trump is a liar willing to sacrifice everyone else over telling the truth. So that truth must be incredibly hurting and illegal. He is a danger to the whole world. And a liar manipulated by other people rather to betray his own people than having the guts to tell the truth.
He is a danger to the whole world.
Sorkel3 on
Trump is interested in bolstering his ego by looking like the big dealmaker. Never mind who he sells out, trashes or fucks over. Look at the whole Afghanistan fiasco he engineered for the accolades but the moment it crashed and burned it was someone else’s fault.
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Trumps capitulation is exactly what any sane non-maga person expected.
The cult will probably think they won and “ended the war”.
America desperately needs a total reform in education.
So, nothing new, basically?
Well.. USA capitulation is just a pretext to USA annexing something themselves in the near future..
The Art of the Deal – give the other guy everything he wants.
Europe capitulated having any say in the outcome of this war when it decided developing a military industrial complex and developing energy independence wasn’t important. Europe should be in the driver seat of these negotiations, not Trump. But Europe is weak, and therefore, doesn’t get a say.
Make America Pathetic Again
It’s only terrible deal making if the goal was to help America/Europe/Democracy.
Since Trump only cares about himself, it’s the chance to make the deal of a lifetime.
Ukraine brought it in themselves. They still owe us 200bln dollars with no way to repay those
USA dominance ends here, that’s a straight win for Russia if Ukraine loses the war
Trump may be a good businessman, but he’s terrible in politics/geopolitics
It’s time to say “Hello” to China on the world stage
TBF, terrible dealmaking is Trump’s signature move. Anyone remember Afghanistan?
Is anyone under the impression that Trump is good at making deals?
It is more than a betrayal of Ukraine. It is a betrayal of the international order that Americans helped create and that hundreds of thousands of Americans, British, French, Canadian, Australian etc. soldiers died for. And a betrayal of Ukraine.
Trump is a genius. All the West had to do was capitulate. Who other than this stable genius could have figured this out.
I’m pretty sure he just did exactly what he was hired to do.
just wondering, would withdrawing from all the F35 contracts be an appropriate response?
Putin > I get to fuck him in the ass and make him swallow…
Good job Trump, good job…
The art of the deal lol.
A heavily armed Europe that doesn’t care about tariffs because it’s just trying not get invaded, that won’t buy American weapons because it was betrayed, that will shut down all American soft power/influence/espionage social media and other software companies, essential parts of America’s full spectrum dominance, that will stop prioritizing human rights, because they don’t have that luxury any longer, so China can replace the US as market, and the restrictions to Mexico and LatAm trade gone. That will buy oil from Canada, so there’s another economic block out of the petrodollar system, feeding the endless American borrowing machine. A Europe in sum weakened economically but strengthened in resolved and no longer being influenced by or buying from the US. Specially if Trump goes after Greenland, which looks like it’s part of the deal with Russia, a new Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in the making.
I really fail to see the net gain for the US. All I see is isolation, brain drain (who wants to do research in a quasi theocracy that resents and does not finance scientists), high inflation, likely default on US debt (a move no one is talking about but which fits Trump like a glove) and without the dollar as reserve currency, hyper inflation and irrelevance.
I still cringe at the thought of Zelensky boot licking Trump and Elon in that Lex interview.
I hope it was 100% fake and just saying what he needed to, and didn’t actually hedge even a single bet on Trump, and instead prepared to lose all US support.
Trump is threat to western democracy and our entire way of life, all because daddy didn’t love him.
Pee pee tape.
stop crying over the little Nazi comedian
“Terrible deal making” is assuming his interests align with that of the nation he is actively destroying.
He is making deals for himself alone.
Putin and Musk seem to have serious dirt on him
That makes him willing to betray his own country over it, and every other ally and other country too.
Trump is a liar willing to sacrifice everyone else over telling the truth. So that truth must be incredibly hurting and illegal. He is a danger to the whole world. And a liar manipulated by other people rather to betray his own people than having the guts to tell the truth.
He is a danger to the whole world.
Trump is interested in bolstering his ego by looking like the big dealmaker. Never mind who he sells out, trashes or fucks over. Look at the whole Afghanistan fiasco he engineered for the accolades but the moment it crashed and burned it was someone else’s fault.