Of course, All others or nearly all of them are in NATO with a goal to reach in terms of GDP spending. Nothing that we already didn’t know. They should give it a rest with their propaganda blitz when it comes to these articles.
>It shows Ireland spends less than other neutral countries, such as Austria and Switzerland, neither of which have a navy or huge maritime areas to monitor and safeguard.
But they do have their own defence industries, so them investing this money actually helps them in the long run. In Ireland’s case, the money would be just leaving the country and not really benefiting the people here.
MrMercurial on
For those who would like to see us increase our military spending – which current spending would you like to cut, and/or what methods would you use to raise additional funds?
Fair_Tension_5936 on
I feel like that’s the one thing we do right, like we have a population the size of a city, even if we had mandatory services (between 18-20 ) for 2 years are army would only stand at around 100k … what are we protecting…the border …the fisheries …the president better of having 2 years of young people working as trades people for free college after , we have a housing shortage and will never be at war with anyone
Peil on
ok
Raddy_Rubes on
Ireland doesnt need a Standing army to defend itself. It needs a large reserve force trained in guerilla tactics in the case of invasion. We will never be big enough to conventionally oppose an invading nation. So we shouldnt even bother to aim for that. But we should expand the reserves. Otherwise we are expanding for the benefit of other countries and not ousrselves. Edit: i.e if we expand conventionally we would only be able to utilise that in deploying as part of other countries defence.
Important_Farmer924 on
Sick of these “ireland freeloading” NATO bait posts. Any second now someone will say that the Russians are coming for the undersea cables and the same accounts arguing the same points as the last time one of these bullshit articles was posted.
chimpdoctor on
No shit.
ConradMcduck on
Because we’re sound and everyone likes.
StKevin27 on
We should invest in our military. We should not join NATO. And we must set boundaries with the EU and USA.
One day soon, and it will be soon if immigration continues to go unregulated, there will be an attack on Irish soil. This is an uncomfortable likelihood that people aren’t willing to entertain. It might be appear to be jihadist, it might appear to be Russian. Whatever the truth is, there will be an attempt to manufacture consent for beefing up Ireland’s defence and international military ties. Don’t fall for it: be wise to the red herrings and expect more of them in the form of articles and media such as this. The best defence Ireland can have is by remaining a neutral state.
System_Web on

amcl1986 on

capri_stylee on
I’m sick of all this NATO posturing. Can’t we just make a nuke or 5 and call it a day?
DoYouBelieveInThat on
It sounds stupid, but we are so far behind every other country in our surrounding region as well as on a global scale. The UK for all their flaws is not launching an invasion into Ireland, and I doubt France, Spain, Portugal, or Italy will either.
What exactly benefits Ireland pumping hundreds of millions into a military we more than likely will never use? It’s probably just enough to build defensive measures and perhaps some better anti-air technology, but it’s not really much of a muchness.
Icy-Lab-2016 on
And?
SERGIONOLAN on
Ireland seriously needs to increase defence spending so our troops get a proper wage, we get more naval ships and fighter aircraft for the Irish Air Force and more troops in the army.
boyga01 on
Biggest airline in Europe. We can evacuate the whole place to the Canaries in one weekend. Be grand
Salaas on
Also in the news, water is wet
Hour_Mastodon_9404 on
The Ra will save us if we ever get invaded!
In all seriousness – the levels of funding it would take to create a defence system capable of fighting off a major power would bankrupt us. The military should be better funded, but we shouldn’t be going overboard on it. Let’s focus our energy on diplomacy and soft power where we actually can punch above our weight.
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Of course, All others or nearly all of them are in NATO with a goal to reach in terms of GDP spending. Nothing that we already didn’t know. They should give it a rest with their propaganda blitz when it comes to these articles.
>It shows Ireland spends less than other neutral countries, such as Austria and Switzerland, neither of which have a navy or huge maritime areas to monitor and safeguard.
But they do have their own defence industries, so them investing this money actually helps them in the long run. In Ireland’s case, the money would be just leaving the country and not really benefiting the people here.
For those who would like to see us increase our military spending – which current spending would you like to cut, and/or what methods would you use to raise additional funds?
I feel like that’s the one thing we do right, like we have a population the size of a city, even if we had mandatory services (between 18-20 ) for 2 years are army would only stand at around 100k … what are we protecting…the border …the fisheries …the president better of having 2 years of young people working as trades people for free college after , we have a housing shortage and will never be at war with anyone
ok
Ireland doesnt need a Standing army to defend itself. It needs a large reserve force trained in guerilla tactics in the case of invasion. We will never be big enough to conventionally oppose an invading nation. So we shouldnt even bother to aim for that. But we should expand the reserves. Otherwise we are expanding for the benefit of other countries and not ousrselves. Edit: i.e if we expand conventionally we would only be able to utilise that in deploying as part of other countries defence.
Sick of these “ireland freeloading” NATO bait posts. Any second now someone will say that the Russians are coming for the undersea cables and the same accounts arguing the same points as the last time one of these bullshit articles was posted.
No shit.
Because we’re sound and everyone likes.
We should invest in our military. We should not join NATO. And we must set boundaries with the EU and USA.
One day soon, and it will be soon if immigration continues to go unregulated, there will be an attack on Irish soil. This is an uncomfortable likelihood that people aren’t willing to entertain. It might be appear to be jihadist, it might appear to be Russian. Whatever the truth is, there will be an attempt to manufacture consent for beefing up Ireland’s defence and international military ties. Don’t fall for it: be wise to the red herrings and expect more of them in the form of articles and media such as this. The best defence Ireland can have is by remaining a neutral state.


I’m sick of all this NATO posturing. Can’t we just make a nuke or 5 and call it a day?
It sounds stupid, but we are so far behind every other country in our surrounding region as well as on a global scale. The UK for all their flaws is not launching an invasion into Ireland, and I doubt France, Spain, Portugal, or Italy will either.
What exactly benefits Ireland pumping hundreds of millions into a military we more than likely will never use? It’s probably just enough to build defensive measures and perhaps some better anti-air technology, but it’s not really much of a muchness.
And?
Ireland seriously needs to increase defence spending so our troops get a proper wage, we get more naval ships and fighter aircraft for the Irish Air Force and more troops in the army.
Biggest airline in Europe. We can evacuate the whole place to the Canaries in one weekend. Be grand
Also in the news, water is wet
The Ra will save us if we ever get invaded!
In all seriousness – the levels of funding it would take to create a defence system capable of fighting off a major power would bankrupt us. The military should be better funded, but we shouldn’t be going overboard on it. Let’s focus our energy on diplomacy and soft power where we actually can punch above our weight.