Just start running Linux on PCs with intel management engine disabled.
Standard_Feature8736 on
Lol, probably goes for every country in Europe. I know for a fact MS365, Outlook, Teams, MSCloud, etc is in widespread use in the Norwegian government as well.
connect-forbes on
Get rid of it all! And please give me citizenship! I’ll join your military!
ZNG91 on
Most likely, over everyone who doesn’t create and then controls domestic product.
When they warn you not to use Chinese
… because of what? Because they know… The workaround is the same, strategies and business models.
It’s still a chess game.
When it comes to defense systems. Better have everything made in-house. Overnight power shifts, weapons once a friend sold you can be remotely turned off, and you are helpless when overrun. Planes, air defense, tanks, drones, ships, vehicles of all sorts, all tracked and disabled.
Ain’t no, as they say, science fiction. Plus, robotics…
yksvaan on
Giving all your data to foreign companies might be a bad idea, really?
Accomplished_Fun6481 on
Remember the cloudstrike issue last year…
OkKnowledge2064 on
not just dutch government data. basically all of european data. I think people are slowly beginning to wake up to the incredible danger and depdency we have on the US for everything digital
Imagine if the US decided to stop all american companies offering digital services in europe. we would be back to 1980 in a day
dpwtr on
What a ridiculous headline. I’m all for moving towards locally built IT systems or whatever the most secure and privacy friendly option is, but I’m tired of hearing about it from people who write like this.
FirstAtEridu on
If only there had been a warning 10 years ago… like some defector willing to speak up… what could have been, we’ll never know. /s
mousepotatodoesstuff on
Windows has fallen
Billions must Linux
finobi on
Well alternatives won’t grow in vacuum…
yellowbai on
Microsoft know where their bread is buttered. If they hand this over they are finished as an entity in Europe. It might take a long time to get away from them but no European country will tolerate it.
More than likely they’ll spin up some sort of legal structure to try to escape the US government.
Otherwise Europe needs to go with other countries to try set up alternatives to the US companies
Fit_Fisherman_9840 on
It will be fun to see those companies loose those state contract en massess
Eastern-Bro9173 on
Would be funny if this ended up leading to the US tech dominance – the reason that concurrence cannot grow up in Europe is that major US tech products were first, and good enough for it to not be worth it to finance alternatives. If they stop being good enough due to data security, it could be an absolute disaster for the US tech sector as it has nothing to gain and everything to lose.
stxxyy on
Which country doesn’t rely on Amazon, Google or Microsoft?
rasta-p on
Encryption at rest just got even more important.
hulda2 on
Europe has been so naive and lazy for so long. We just literally decided that Europe doesn’t need it’s own security anymore at all after WW2 and now we are in trouble.
pavilio on
We need to get off US tech
pc0999 on
We should have moved from MS snd company a long time ago.
Just move for open source alternatives.
Invest in European alternatives and adapt the open source projects to our needs.
pc0999 on
Also do your individual part when you can and use Linux, LivreOffice and the like. Boycout USA tech whenever you can with open source ou european alternatives.
As much as I hate Trump & Musk – this is ridiculous scaremongering. Every single government is heavily dependent on Microsoft and other tech companies. What do the authors propose? Switching over to Chinese software providers?
praetorian1111 on
Yeah well, luckily not all departments, but until a month ago, what the hell was wrong with using systems from allied countries
djquu on
So US is gonna do what they accuse China of doing (and why they are banning TikTok)? Every accusation is a confession.
mrtn17 on
Yep, EU should invest in their own platforms for communication, data storage or even social media. You know what, buy Wikipedia as well. Just to keep it free and safe from the liars
tylerssoap99 on
Why is the headline trump has free rein over Dutch government data rather than the United States has free rein over Dutch government data?
Pitiful-Eye9093 on
Lmao! That fucking headline! No he doesn’t.
KeilanS on
I’m starting to think we need to treat US like China. We need alternatives to Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc.
Curious_Ad_8896 on
Boycott US product and services
lawrotzr on
I’m Dutch, and not worried at all.
With a 50% income tax, 21% VAT, another 5% in municipal and provincial taxes, and €1200 per month per child for childcare, the Dutch government already takes everything I have so that I can carry on going to work and live in a house.
They don’t make me the piss lukewarm – as we would say.
schacks on
Our government here in Denmark have been in bed with Microsoft for more than two decades. Microsoft is so embedded that most employees at government institutions would be at loss to login to a linuxbox. It has cost billions and the two high level civil servants that headed the regulatory department later got very lucrative and easy jobs at . . . you guessed it . . . Microsoft!!
LightFootFreddy on
Yep, he is definitely going to need this information from the Dutch.
karpaty31946 on
I was screaming into the void in the 2010s that the centralization and “cloudification” of everything was a terrible idea, but everyone called me crazy (cloud is more reliable, less costly, blah blah blah).
tejanaqkilica on
Phew, I though we almost made it a day without “Donald Trump bad” news. No actual journalism, just clickbait and hate wagon. Carry on.
HugoCortell on
Deserved. No pity for countries that care naught for their own sovereignty.
Ubiquitous_Rhino on
Same goes for Denmark. Hell, he could probably take over Greenland by changing the content of a couple of government files. No need to sanction at all 🙂
Flash_Haos on
EU institutions including EU Comission has an official strategy of moving to the cloud (aws mostly). I work with a client, another eu institution, and this organization is in the middle of moving all its IT systems into the cloud – and it already has migrated a lot including ms office into cloud office 365.
It’s such a strange move. They say it cuts the TCO, but it just moves capex to opex and allow you to fire skilled engineers – instead of eu residents it will be US and Indians programmers supporting this cloud. Isn’t it stupid?
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Just start running Linux on PCs with intel management engine disabled.
Lol, probably goes for every country in Europe. I know for a fact MS365, Outlook, Teams, MSCloud, etc is in widespread use in the Norwegian government as well.
Get rid of it all! And please give me citizenship! I’ll join your military!
Most likely, over everyone who doesn’t create and then controls domestic product.
When they warn you not to use Chinese
… because of what? Because they know… The workaround is the same, strategies and business models.
It’s still a chess game.
When it comes to defense systems. Better have everything made in-house. Overnight power shifts, weapons once a friend sold you can be remotely turned off, and you are helpless when overrun. Planes, air defense, tanks, drones, ships, vehicles of all sorts, all tracked and disabled.
Ain’t no, as they say, science fiction. Plus, robotics…
Giving all your data to foreign companies might be a bad idea, really?
Remember the cloudstrike issue last year…
not just dutch government data. basically all of european data. I think people are slowly beginning to wake up to the incredible danger and depdency we have on the US for everything digital
Imagine if the US decided to stop all american companies offering digital services in europe. we would be back to 1980 in a day
What a ridiculous headline. I’m all for moving towards locally built IT systems or whatever the most secure and privacy friendly option is, but I’m tired of hearing about it from people who write like this.
If only there had been a warning 10 years ago… like some defector willing to speak up… what could have been, we’ll never know. /s
Windows has fallen
Billions must Linux
Well alternatives won’t grow in vacuum…
Microsoft know where their bread is buttered. If they hand this over they are finished as an entity in Europe. It might take a long time to get away from them but no European country will tolerate it.
More than likely they’ll spin up some sort of legal structure to try to escape the US government.
Otherwise Europe needs to go with other countries to try set up alternatives to the US companies
It will be fun to see those companies loose those state contract en massess
Would be funny if this ended up leading to the US tech dominance – the reason that concurrence cannot grow up in Europe is that major US tech products were first, and good enough for it to not be worth it to finance alternatives. If they stop being good enough due to data security, it could be an absolute disaster for the US tech sector as it has nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Which country doesn’t rely on Amazon, Google or Microsoft?
Encryption at rest just got even more important.
Europe has been so naive and lazy for so long. We just literally decided that Europe doesn’t need it’s own security anymore at all after WW2 and now we are in trouble.
We need to get off US tech
We should have moved from MS snd company a long time ago.
Just move for open source alternatives.
Invest in European alternatives and adapt the open source projects to our needs.
Also do your individual part when you can and use Linux, LivreOffice and the like. Boycout USA tech whenever you can with open source ou european alternatives.
BTW look at
https://european-alternatives.eu/
As much as I hate Trump & Musk – this is ridiculous scaremongering. Every single government is heavily dependent on Microsoft and other tech companies. What do the authors propose? Switching over to Chinese software providers?
Yeah well, luckily not all departments, but until a month ago, what the hell was wrong with using systems from allied countries
So US is gonna do what they accuse China of doing (and why they are banning TikTok)? Every accusation is a confession.
Yep, EU should invest in their own platforms for communication, data storage or even social media. You know what, buy Wikipedia as well. Just to keep it free and safe from the liars
Why is the headline trump has free rein over Dutch government data rather than the United States has free rein over Dutch government data?
Lmao! That fucking headline! No he doesn’t.
I’m starting to think we need to treat US like China. We need alternatives to Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc.
Boycott US product and services
I’m Dutch, and not worried at all.
With a 50% income tax, 21% VAT, another 5% in municipal and provincial taxes, and €1200 per month per child for childcare, the Dutch government already takes everything I have so that I can carry on going to work and live in a house.
They don’t make me the piss lukewarm – as we would say.
Our government here in Denmark have been in bed with Microsoft for more than two decades. Microsoft is so embedded that most employees at government institutions would be at loss to login to a linuxbox. It has cost billions and the two high level civil servants that headed the regulatory department later got very lucrative and easy jobs at . . . you guessed it . . . Microsoft!!
Yep, he is definitely going to need this information from the Dutch.
I was screaming into the void in the 2010s that the centralization and “cloudification” of everything was a terrible idea, but everyone called me crazy (cloud is more reliable, less costly, blah blah blah).
Phew, I though we almost made it a day without “Donald Trump bad” news. No actual journalism, just clickbait and hate wagon. Carry on.
Deserved. No pity for countries that care naught for their own sovereignty.
Same goes for Denmark. Hell, he could probably take over Greenland by changing the content of a couple of government files. No need to sanction at all 🙂
EU institutions including EU Comission has an official strategy of moving to the cloud (aws mostly). I work with a client, another eu institution, and this organization is in the middle of moving all its IT systems into the cloud – and it already has migrated a lot including ms office into cloud office 365.
It’s such a strange move. They say it cuts the TCO, but it just moves capex to opex and allow you to fire skilled engineers – instead of eu residents it will be US and Indians programmers supporting this cloud. Isn’t it stupid?