Emmanuel Macron has described Donald Trump’s return as an “electroshock” that should force Europe to secure its own future as well as Ukraine’s.
In an interview at the Élysée Palace shortly after Trump agreed with Vladimir Putin of Russia to hold imminent peace talks, the French president championed the need for Europe to “muscle up” on defence and the economy.
He insisted that only Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy could negotiate on behalf of his country, warning that allowing “peace that is a capitulation” would be “bad news for everyone”, including the US.
“The only question at this stage is whether President Putin is genuinely, sustainably, and credibly willing to agree to a ceasefire on this basis. After that, it’s up to the Ukrainians to negotiate with Russia,” Macron said, adding: “We all need to stay collectively vigilant.”
The French leader has long argued that Europe should take on more responsibility for its own security, which would only be possible by increasing economic independence and reducing its reliance on the US and China.
He described Trump’s return to the White House as a jolt to push the EU to invest in its own defence, economic and technological revival. It meant abandoning a fiscal and monetary framework, first agreed by the EU in 1992, which he described as “obsolete”.
“This is Europe’s moment to accelerate and execute,” he said, while warning of the risk of failure for the EU. “It has no choice. It is running out of road.”
Whether Macron can rally other European countries to his programme is an open question, especially since he has been badly weakened at home and in Brussels by the political paralysis that followed last year’s snap election. France’s depleted public finances also limit its own ability to make necessary investments in defence and other priorities.
Nonetheless, the French president endorsed the Trump administration’s position that it was Europe’s responsibility to ensure Ukraine’s security, saying it stemmed from a generational and bipartisan shift in America’s foreign policy priorities away from Europe and towards Asia.
US unilateralism did not start with Trump’s return to power, Macron added, noting that he “did not receive a call” in advance from the Biden administration about its “Aukus” nuclear submarine deal with Australia and the UK or about its withdrawal from Afghanistan.
“What Trump is saying to Europe is that it is up to you to carry the burden. And I say, it is up to us to take it on,” Macron said.
While many European leaders reacted furiously to Trump’s talks with Putin on ending the war in Ukraine, Macron appeared more sanguine. Having spoken to Trump by phone earlier in the week, Macron said he was “not surprised” by the US president’s move.
He said Trump had created a “window of opportunity” for a negotiated solution, where “everyone has to play their role”.
The US role is to “restart this dialogue” and take the initiative because Trump brought an “element of strategic disruption”. He said it would be up to Zelenskyy “alone” to discuss “territorial and sovereignty issues”. And “it is up to the international community, with a specific role for the Europeans, to discuss security guarantees and, more broadly, the security framework for the entire region. That is where we have a role to play.”
Historical-Kale-2765 on
I think this is the only politician in the world who is more popular abroad than in his own country. How he hasn’t been whipped out of office yet is anyone’s guess.
Visible_Bat2176 on
if the german elections are a mess, there will be zero response…or even a total surrender for germany to the USA!
no-mad265 on
Should, would, could. We ain’t doing anything.
BeneficialClassic771 on
NATO is dead and gone we need a new security architecture in europe. We must come up with our own European Military Union excluding the US
Lex2882 on
And we will respond , the phenomenal success of Mistral Ai is only the beginning of that response.
Andynor35 on
bla bla bla, talk talk talk… nothing gets done.
Delicious_Judge_534 on
And he’s not wrong at all.
We have a butt ton of defense companies in Europe which would be more than happy to see some investments in their businesses.
This is a major challenge for Europe but an awesome opportunity as well: we either do it and become a formidable force or we don’t and we move into oblivion. Because no matter what deal is made on the Ukraine situation, the threat will always be there.
No-Muffin-4250 on
Well go on start homie, take the lead, do something, all bark no bite, all this talk of Europe not depending on yankees will stay in just “talk”
hyakumanben on
I will believe it when I see it. So far, Europe has been too little, too late as always.
The_Flying_Failsons on
I really hate how Trump, AdF et al of those dickwads make fucking shitheads like Macron look like competent leaders by comparison.
shamarelica on
First thing to do if EU leaders are serious is to remove USians and their bases in Europe and treat US as a hostile nation that is threatening to take parts of Denmark and wants to annex Canada, friendly nation to EU.
Without bases in Europe US reach and influence over half of the world is crippled. Let them isolate, it is what they want. Then they will balkanize themselves.
But I think its more likely that EU nations will throw a couple hundred billions to buy US weapons in an attempt to suck up to trump and wait out till next amerikan ruler.
Doc_Bader on
Man all these “nOThInG iS doNE” talk in the comments get on my nerves.
European defense budgets are increasing left and right – of course they won’t jump to nominal US levels overnight.
Europe also gave more money and military aid to Ukraine than the US.
And more and more integration on the EU-level in terms of military is actually happening.
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Always screaming “we suck” at everything doesn’t help anyone, nor is it correct.
crone66 on
Obviously Ukraine will negotiate for them self even Trump knows that.
But in all honesty USA can withdraw support whenever they want thats up to them and Ukraine can negotiate peace and make a deal or not that up to them too.
Sure without the Support of USA Ukraine has a big issue but already has a big issue and is about to lose the war anyways.
I think we have to be realistic. The war is lost. They can continue fight and kill thousands of more people just for the very slight hope to get into a better position for negotiation but is it worth it? Probably not.
DifusDofus on
> “This model, that is saying you have the Chinese market as an outlet, you have the American umbrella for our security and you have cheap Russian gas to be able to produce, forget all three.”
Brutal by Macron but very much correct
TheWhiteHammer23 on
This one is growing balls right know…..But at least has been vocal, can’t say the same thing for other European leaders…
EvilFroeschken on
“Europe must respond…”
How about Macron invites EU leaders to Paris to discuss how we go forward.
Just idle words for more meaningless headlines.
aiart13 on
Good. But actually Europe have to do something instead of just say something. Gather an army, repel the invader from Ukraine, join Ukraine and Moldova in EU union. Things that should’ve already be done. But they are not.
War at this point is inevitable. Putin and Trump directly negotiate the fate of Europe and Macron, which I believe is one of the few good leaders in Europe, just says things.
Time for action. Tomorrow will be late.
Covfefe_Fulcrum on
Limit what is shared with the USA. Tulsi Gabbard ffs. Russians everywhere. Can’t trust the USA at all.
Organic-Category-674 on
Deal with Iran and China in certain extent.
Oil from Iran, part of US bases in Europe to China in exchange to Taiwan special status. Exclude US from nano chips supply
MaseratiBiturbo on
Trump’s abject capitulation to Putin makes Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement in Munich look like an act of heroic defiance.
Dank_Investor on
UK left the union and France is the only voice of reason.. Germany is the leader of do nothing party, what a shitshow
Positive_Vines on
Unreliable US to the left, dangerous Russia and China to the right.
There never was a more important time for Europe to bind together. Deregulate, invest in infrastructure, invest in defence.
TungstenPaladin on
Isn’t Macron a lameduck president now? Easy for him to talk when when nothing will happen for the remaining time in his presidency.
Oven-Existing on
As a hungarian this world fells like suffocationg in a bathtub, then an asshole comes in and say that we are on the titanic.
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Emmanuel Macron has described Donald Trump’s return as an “electroshock” that should force Europe to secure its own future as well as Ukraine’s.
In an interview at the Élysée Palace shortly after Trump agreed with Vladimir Putin of Russia to hold imminent peace talks, the French president championed the need for Europe to “muscle up” on defence and the economy.
He insisted that only Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy could negotiate on behalf of his country, warning that allowing “peace that is a capitulation” would be “bad news for everyone”, including the US.
“The only question at this stage is whether President Putin is genuinely, sustainably, and credibly willing to agree to a ceasefire on this basis. After that, it’s up to the Ukrainians to negotiate with Russia,” Macron said, adding: “We all need to stay collectively vigilant.”
The French leader has long argued that Europe should take on more responsibility for its own security, which would only be possible by increasing economic independence and reducing its reliance on the US and China.
He described Trump’s return to the White House as a jolt to push the EU to invest in its own defence, economic and technological revival. It meant abandoning a fiscal and monetary framework, first agreed by the EU in 1992, which he described as “obsolete”.
“This is Europe’s moment to accelerate and execute,” he said, while warning of the risk of failure for the EU. “It has no choice. It is running out of road.”
Whether Macron can rally other European countries to his programme is an open question, especially since he has been badly weakened at home and in Brussels by the political paralysis that followed last year’s snap election. France’s depleted public finances also limit its own ability to make necessary investments in defence and other priorities.
Nonetheless, the French president endorsed the Trump administration’s position that it was Europe’s responsibility to ensure Ukraine’s security, saying it stemmed from a generational and bipartisan shift in America’s foreign policy priorities away from Europe and towards Asia.
US unilateralism did not start with Trump’s return to power, Macron added, noting that he “did not receive a call” in advance from the Biden administration about its “Aukus” nuclear submarine deal with Australia and the UK or about its withdrawal from Afghanistan.
“What Trump is saying to Europe is that it is up to you to carry the burden. And I say, it is up to us to take it on,” Macron said.
While many European leaders reacted furiously to Trump’s talks with Putin on ending the war in Ukraine, Macron appeared more sanguine. Having spoken to Trump by phone earlier in the week, Macron said he was “not surprised” by the US president’s move.
He said Trump had created a “window of opportunity” for a negotiated solution, where “everyone has to play their role”.
The US role is to “restart this dialogue” and take the initiative because Trump brought an “element of strategic disruption”. He said it would be up to Zelenskyy “alone” to discuss “territorial and sovereignty issues”. And “it is up to the international community, with a specific role for the Europeans, to discuss security guarantees and, more broadly, the security framework for the entire region. That is where we have a role to play.”
I think this is the only politician in the world who is more popular abroad than in his own country. How he hasn’t been whipped out of office yet is anyone’s guess.
if the german elections are a mess, there will be zero response…or even a total surrender for germany to the USA!
Should, would, could. We ain’t doing anything.
NATO is dead and gone we need a new security architecture in europe. We must come up with our own European Military Union excluding the US
And we will respond , the phenomenal success of Mistral Ai is only the beginning of that response.
bla bla bla, talk talk talk… nothing gets done.
And he’s not wrong at all.
We have a butt ton of defense companies in Europe which would be more than happy to see some investments in their businesses.
This is a major challenge for Europe but an awesome opportunity as well: we either do it and become a formidable force or we don’t and we move into oblivion. Because no matter what deal is made on the Ukraine situation, the threat will always be there.
Well go on start homie, take the lead, do something, all bark no bite, all this talk of Europe not depending on yankees will stay in just “talk”
I will believe it when I see it. So far, Europe has been too little, too late as always.
I really hate how Trump, AdF et al of those dickwads make fucking shitheads like Macron look like competent leaders by comparison.
First thing to do if EU leaders are serious is to remove USians and their bases in Europe and treat US as a hostile nation that is threatening to take parts of Denmark and wants to annex Canada, friendly nation to EU.
Without bases in Europe US reach and influence over half of the world is crippled. Let them isolate, it is what they want. Then they will balkanize themselves.
But I think its more likely that EU nations will throw a couple hundred billions to buy US weapons in an attempt to suck up to trump and wait out till next amerikan ruler.
Man all these “nOThInG iS doNE” talk in the comments get on my nerves.
European defense budgets are increasing left and right – of course they won’t jump to nominal US levels overnight.
Europe also gave more money and military aid to Ukraine than the US.
And more and more integration on the EU-level in terms of military is actually happening.
—
Always screaming “we suck” at everything doesn’t help anyone, nor is it correct.
Obviously Ukraine will negotiate for them self even Trump knows that.
But in all honesty USA can withdraw support whenever they want thats up to them and Ukraine can negotiate peace and make a deal or not that up to them too.
Sure without the Support of USA Ukraine has a big issue but already has a big issue and is about to lose the war anyways.
I think we have to be realistic. The war is lost. They can continue fight and kill thousands of more people just for the very slight hope to get into a better position for negotiation but is it worth it? Probably not.
> “This model, that is saying you have the Chinese market as an outlet, you have the American umbrella for our security and you have cheap Russian gas to be able to produce, forget all three.”
Brutal by Macron but very much correct
This one is growing balls right know…..But at least has been vocal, can’t say the same thing for other European leaders…
“Europe must respond…”
How about Macron invites EU leaders to Paris to discuss how we go forward.
Just idle words for more meaningless headlines.
Good. But actually Europe have to do something instead of just say something. Gather an army, repel the invader from Ukraine, join Ukraine and Moldova in EU union. Things that should’ve already be done. But they are not.
War at this point is inevitable. Putin and Trump directly negotiate the fate of Europe and Macron, which I believe is one of the few good leaders in Europe, just says things.
Time for action. Tomorrow will be late.
Limit what is shared with the USA. Tulsi Gabbard ffs. Russians everywhere. Can’t trust the USA at all.
Deal with Iran and China in certain extent.
Oil from Iran, part of US bases in Europe to China in exchange to Taiwan special status. Exclude US from nano chips supply
Trump’s abject capitulation to Putin makes Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement in Munich look like an act of heroic defiance.
UK left the union and France is the only voice of reason.. Germany is the leader of do nothing party, what a shitshow
Unreliable US to the left, dangerous Russia and China to the right.
There never was a more important time for Europe to bind together. Deregulate, invest in infrastructure, invest in defence.
Isn’t Macron a lameduck president now? Easy for him to talk when when nothing will happen for the remaining time in his presidency.
As a hungarian this world fells like suffocationg in a bathtub, then an asshole comes in and say that we are on the titanic.