Clearly Vance is giving signals he’s after diplomatic asylum.
NotBorn2Fade on
Also White House can no longer use the word “felon” AFAIK.
I think one has to be stupid if they don’t see that “free speech” has become a dogwhistle for “allowing bigotry and hate crimes without repercussions”.
DarthSet on
It’s Gaslighting. They are not normal, don’t let them convince you otherwise.
Musk did the sig heil twice and no one left. They are all Nazis.
Bloodrose_GW2 on
I’m starting to feel that the sci-fi writers of the 70s and 80s were not writing actually sci-fi but somehow they foresaw the future, and their distopic novels are getting more and more accurate depictions of our near future.
DaniDaniDa on
We arn’t the ones trying to ban TilTok. Or banning outlets from access like the White House has to the Pentagon. Or spending years arguing over russian interference in the 2016 election. Or making sure journalists receive death threats by throwing accusations at them during election rallys.
assmess on
We have to get back to the times when idiots were not allowed to speak.
Diederik-NL on
As the management of a news agency, I would withdraw all my reporters from these White House press conferences until AP is allowed to participate again. The freedom of speech and the freedom of the press are on the line.
secomano on
when the girlfriend/boyfriend you just caught cheating accuses you of cheating.
ExpressAssist0819 on
I’m not sure if the codespeak is similar over in Europe, but in the US there is a specific translation for claims like this from people like vance.
“Free speech” means the freedom of the far right to do and say whatever the hell they want without challenge or contest. “Censorship” is when they are banned or not allowed on a platform because of said speech, because to them “freedom of speech” means something different for them than the rest of us.
It’s not hypocrisy. It’s power. They only have freedom of speech if you don’t. This is a dog whistle for fascists and nazis, but the dog whistle is a bullhorn.
coffeework42 on
“There is no free speech on Europe”
So what? You are not living in Europe.
crlthrn on
But nobody ever confronts these idiots with their contradictions. Journos just ask these twats softball questions all the time.
RadFluxRose on
“Your so-called ‘freedom of speech’ is our freedom to ignore or ridicule. Good day!”
No_Light_5098 on
Who the hell is this mascara guy lecturing Europeans ?
ConsistentMove357 on
Yep Europe they censor you reddit censors
the_real_dogefather on
PSI: there is no such thing as “freedom of speech” in Germany (by law). The Germans have a “freedom of opinion” (by law).
tzaeru on
It’s right out of the fascist playbook. Create division, make your opponents seem like monsters, all while you do the exact things you accuse others of.
USA is slipping fast into autoritarianism. It’s always been a pretty flawed democracy, but right now these people are setting up things so that there wont be a next free election at all anymore. To do that, they need to make their own support base think that they are the only ones who can protect them from the evil outside world.
xondk on
Reading certain subs, it is interesting how this is proclaimed as having nothing to do with freedom of speech, it seems to them, they can do no wrong, all the while accusing ‘the left’ of doing everything wrong.
Quazz on
Give the get far right unfettered freedom of speech and soon you’ll find yourself without yours.
capracucinciiezi on
Holy hypocrisy!
thedude0343 on
4 yrs of American ISIS
Unhappy_Wedding_8457 on
They are trying to build a narrative where they are excused from attacking european property.
german-fat-toni on
Funny that a guy like him hates trans people but wears eyeliner, forbids pronouns but somehow says we are against free speech and said trump was the next hitler to then become his VP…
Northern0577 on
Dropping alternative facts and hate speech is everything else but no freedom of speech.
saracuratsiprost on
Free speech is the detail here. It is true, their side does not censor speech, it floods social media with their crap and has some nonsense for every type of rational thing.
It works better than censoring the opposite side when you are the loudest.
Unfortunately there is only way out of this, when the public gets saturated and when their ideas will be tested enough by the public (with disastrous results) this nonsense flooding speech will become obsolete.
FudgingEgo on
It’s so funny how Americans go on about how they’re the only free country in the world, yet there’s so much that is banned.
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Clearly Vance is giving signals he’s after diplomatic asylum.
Also White House can no longer use the word “felon” AFAIK.
I think one has to be stupid if they don’t see that “free speech” has become a dogwhistle for “allowing bigotry and hate crimes without repercussions”.
It’s Gaslighting. They are not normal, don’t let them convince you otherwise.
Musk did the sig heil twice and no one left. They are all Nazis.
I’m starting to feel that the sci-fi writers of the 70s and 80s were not writing actually sci-fi but somehow they foresaw the future, and their distopic novels are getting more and more accurate depictions of our near future.
We arn’t the ones trying to ban TilTok. Or banning outlets from access like the White House has to the Pentagon. Or spending years arguing over russian interference in the 2016 election. Or making sure journalists receive death threats by throwing accusations at them during election rallys.
We have to get back to the times when idiots were not allowed to speak.
As the management of a news agency, I would withdraw all my reporters from these White House press conferences until AP is allowed to participate again. The freedom of speech and the freedom of the press are on the line.
when the girlfriend/boyfriend you just caught cheating accuses you of cheating.
I’m not sure if the codespeak is similar over in Europe, but in the US there is a specific translation for claims like this from people like vance.
“Free speech” means the freedom of the far right to do and say whatever the hell they want without challenge or contest. “Censorship” is when they are banned or not allowed on a platform because of said speech, because to them “freedom of speech” means something different for them than the rest of us.
It’s not hypocrisy. It’s power. They only have freedom of speech if you don’t. This is a dog whistle for fascists and nazis, but the dog whistle is a bullhorn.
“There is no free speech on Europe”
So what? You are not living in Europe.
But nobody ever confronts these idiots with their contradictions. Journos just ask these twats softball questions all the time.
“Your so-called ‘freedom of speech’ is our freedom to ignore or ridicule. Good day!”
Who the hell is this mascara guy lecturing Europeans ?
Yep Europe they censor you reddit censors
PSI: there is no such thing as “freedom of speech” in Germany (by law). The Germans have a “freedom of opinion” (by law).
It’s right out of the fascist playbook. Create division, make your opponents seem like monsters, all while you do the exact things you accuse others of.
USA is slipping fast into autoritarianism. It’s always been a pretty flawed democracy, but right now these people are setting up things so that there wont be a next free election at all anymore. To do that, they need to make their own support base think that they are the only ones who can protect them from the evil outside world.
Reading certain subs, it is interesting how this is proclaimed as having nothing to do with freedom of speech, it seems to them, they can do no wrong, all the while accusing ‘the left’ of doing everything wrong.
Give the get far right unfettered freedom of speech and soon you’ll find yourself without yours.
Holy hypocrisy!
4 yrs of American ISIS
They are trying to build a narrative where they are excused from attacking european property.
Funny that a guy like him hates trans people but wears eyeliner, forbids pronouns but somehow says we are against free speech and said trump was the next hitler to then become his VP…
Dropping alternative facts and hate speech is everything else but no freedom of speech.
Free speech is the detail here. It is true, their side does not censor speech, it floods social media with their crap and has some nonsense for every type of rational thing.
It works better than censoring the opposite side when you are the loudest.
Unfortunately there is only way out of this, when the public gets saturated and when their ideas will be tested enough by the public (with disastrous results) this nonsense flooding speech will become obsolete.
It’s so funny how Americans go on about how they’re the only free country in the world, yet there’s so much that is banned.