The Trump presidency is causing real headaches for NATO countries.
As they try to wrap their minds around, the illogic of Trump’s thinking…
4shitzngigelz on
Self-sufficiency
LeadingPhilosopher81 on
Gosh. AP being dramatic.
Last minute. Emergency. Everyone super baffled.
Americans are known for being loud and crass. Otherwise we would’ve thought Vance is a Canadian
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Dtstno on
Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant in terms of geopolitics, industry, and, soon, the economy. Americans don’t even see Europe as a consumer market for their products like they used to until recently. Trump is just speeding up this process.
Basic-Strain-6922 on
**TL;DR:**
• Leaders of Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy, Poland, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark and the European Union are at the Elysee Palace in Paris. French President Macron spoke with U.S.
• President Donald Trump, but Macron’s office would not disclose details about the 20-minute discussion. The meeting follows a flurry of speeches by Vice President JD Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week questioning both Europe’s security commitments and its fundamental democratic principles.
• The tipping point came when Trump decided to upend years of U.N. policy by holding talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in hopes of ending the Russia-Ukraine war, Zelenskyy said Monday in a virtual news conference in Kyiv.
• But many EU nations are still mulling whether to contribute troops to a potential force in Ukraine after a peace deal, they said. The U.K.
• Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that the U.k. was “ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees to Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary’.
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Econ_Orc on
“Leaders of Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy, Poland, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark and the European Union arrived at the Elysee Palace for talks on Europe’s security quandary. ”
Not exactly the case for Denmark. PM Mette Frederiksen represents more than Denmark at this meeting. She is the front for the the Nordic nations and the Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Tiny Denmark with just under 6 million people and 42.952 km2 is at this event of the “larger/stronger” western european nations because there is an additional 1.4 million km2 27 million people in the background and the combined 12th largest economy in the world.
edit. It even got a name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic-Baltic_Eight
Curiously enough Greenland is not included. I think that might be because this is mostly EU oriented, and restricted in geography to the European continent.
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Sammonov on
Trump has been completely clear on how he intended to shape negotiations for months.
reincarnatedusername on
Fuck the USA.
daiaomori on
Abandoned?
Just wait until he starts grabbing for our resources…
BlueZybez on
Spend more on defence (minimum 5% of GDP) and get stronger.
Defiant-Onion4815 on
Their are no permanent allies only permanent interests
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The Trump presidency is causing real headaches for NATO countries.
As they try to wrap their minds around, the illogic of Trump’s thinking…
Self-sufficiency
Gosh. AP being dramatic.
Last minute. Emergency. Everyone super baffled.
Americans are known for being loud and crass. Otherwise we would’ve thought Vance is a Canadian
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Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant in terms of geopolitics, industry, and, soon, the economy. Americans don’t even see Europe as a consumer market for their products like they used to until recently. Trump is just speeding up this process.
**TL;DR:**
• Leaders of Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy, Poland, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark and the European Union are at the Elysee Palace in Paris. French President Macron spoke with U.S.
• President Donald Trump, but Macron’s office would not disclose details about the 20-minute discussion. The meeting follows a flurry of speeches by Vice President JD Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week questioning both Europe’s security commitments and its fundamental democratic principles.
• The tipping point came when Trump decided to upend years of U.N. policy by holding talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in hopes of ending the Russia-Ukraine war, Zelenskyy said Monday in a virtual news conference in Kyiv.
• But many EU nations are still mulling whether to contribute troops to a potential force in Ukraine after a peace deal, they said. The U.K.
• Prime Minister Keir Starmer said that the U.k. was “ready and willing to contribute to security guarantees to Ukraine by putting our own troops on the ground if necessary’.
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*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically.*
“Leaders of Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy, Poland, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark and the European Union arrived at the Elysee Palace for talks on Europe’s security quandary. ”
Not exactly the case for Denmark. PM Mette Frederiksen represents more than Denmark at this meeting. She is the front for the the Nordic nations and the Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Tiny Denmark with just under 6 million people and 42.952 km2 is at this event of the “larger/stronger” western european nations because there is an additional 1.4 million km2 27 million people in the background and the combined 12th largest economy in the world.
edit. It even got a name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic-Baltic_Eight
Curiously enough Greenland is not included. I think that might be because this is mostly EU oriented, and restricted in geography to the European continent.
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Trump has been completely clear on how he intended to shape negotiations for months.
Fuck the USA.
Abandoned?
Just wait until he starts grabbing for our resources…
Spend more on defence (minimum 5% of GDP) and get stronger.
Their are no permanent allies only permanent interests
He obv has