L’Europa combinata ha inviato più aiuti in Ucraina rispetto agli Stati Uniti
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L’Europa combinata ha inviato più aiuti in Ucraina rispetto agli Stati Uniti
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di NoVermicelli9693
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And yet you often read, even here on Reddit, that the USA basically helps Ukraine all by itself.
Does this even account for the unannounced aid ? Quite a few countries never specified what they provide. The difference will probably be much starker.
We should double our efforts and ignore the absolute shitshow that is the USA.
Why are we competing with the US on how much money we throw at the problem, instead of competing with Russia to win?
But it is Europe’s problem not US’s. Obviously they get tired of this anyway.
Europe needs to put more resources into Ukraine to protect its safety and let US go away
We are also like 100 million more people in the EU vs. US. It is somewhat reasonable that we provide more aid I think.
True. But European help is mostly economic, while American is military and ATM Ukraine needs more weapons than money.
if we want to have a seat at any negotiations, we have to offer to double our aid in case US pull out and present our own peace proposal negotiated with Russia or triple our aid and continue fighting.
There is just zero chance of winning right now and US have no obligation to help defending non-NATO countries indefinitely. If we offer nothing, we can’t blame anyone else for not taking us seriously.
so what you are saying is that Ukraine just lost half of it’s total aid?
As it should. Ukraine is quite a long way from the USA.
Yes. And as a % of GDP it’s also pretty similar.
We also need to remember that most of that EU spending **goes to US defence firms**. Any implication from the US that “Europe doesn’t spend enough** is disingenuous at best. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it.
Almost 50% of EU aid are loans that need to be paid back by Ukraine. The US has given grants aka free money to buy approved American weapons. Big difference in my book, although I am sure nobody will agree with me.
it’s about quality, non quantity.
the biggest pain point is thos patriot systems and their missiles.
Zelensky himself said so.
the next pain point would be US provided intelligence, which ultimately would come from their Russian sources and signal intelligence.
we can’t compensate that.
Good. I would expect as much. After all, this is in our back yard. This will only trend as US deviates from the alliance with the EU.
As well much of this help was to deliver old ammo (sparing on utilization) to manufacture the new for the US
That’s a weird way of saying that the US sends just a bit less than your entire continent combined.
Mind breaking it down by country? Because I keep hearing about how Americans are stupid for thinking of Europe as a country.
According to president Zelenskiy, Ukraine has received 46 billions dollars in military support from the US for the last three years: [https://x.com/VVP2_0/status/1891531046820237393](https://x.com/VVP2_0/status/1891531046820237393)
Total amount of promised military support from the US is 77 billions.
How is that a flex? An entire continent has to chip in to meet the contributions of one country. Just to fix another one of Europe’s problems
Collective EU and EU Member State support to Ukraine includes:
* Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance.
* Close to $73 billion in financial and budgetary support and in humanitarian and emergency assistance.
* Over $52 billion in military assistance
https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253
US aid
* To date, we have provided $65.9 billion in military assistance since Russia launched its premeditated, unprovoked, and brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022
https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/releases/2025/01/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine
* Congress has appropriated or otherwise made available nearly $183 billion for OAR and the broader Ukraine response
This is both military and other aid.
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
See you don’t need us pay your own bills, fight your own wars.
Yes but not weapons
*Pats Europe on the back*
Together stronk!
the debate should not be who helps Ukraine the most, but how we can help Ukraine more.
I keep saying, EU needs better marketing. Better propaganda.
Thing is it means we need to double up.
Is that something to brag about?
What has the EU done to stop the slaughter. I’m sure it would fund it to perpetuity to avoid actual boots on the ground.
Thank you Europe, we appreciate it!
As it should be?
Should be even higher, should include troops (including drafted Irishmen, we need to defend ourselves.
Europe needs to unite. The time is now.
The US total GDP is higher than EU+UK+Norway. The US gdp per capita is also much higher than in Europe, so it’s not like they couldn’t afford it.
And? US still sends almost the same amount of help as the entire Europe combined. It will be devastating for Ukraine if they stop.
Yes and we probably didt use 70% of it to buy thing for our self like US did and send things almost ready for decomitions and liqudation that would cost more then send it to Ukraine.
The main topic is the 100k us soldiers in eu that they want to call back, with all the stuff with it.
Eu countries dont spend enough for their own security and that the main problem.
They cant supply ukrain enough because of the lack of industry / production.
The problem is not the money but the capacity of produce weapons.
Way too many decades without real program…
USA has sent more military aid, Europes taking the charge on food and medicine