Both are unreliable and should be better. UK privatised everything and lost control. Germany kept an element of control and made the conscious decision to let it rot.
German network and rolling stock is on average better. UK ticketing system is opaque and infuriating. At least Germany has spar and flexpreis. Within city transport is so much better in Germany.
So yeah, I’d prefer DB than travel around northern England by train.
ProfessorFunky on
Shocker. /s
I was honestly surprised when I moved over here how someone actually made their railway worse than the UK. Then I realised, efficiency and bureaucracy seem to get switched in the translation to the outside world from inside Germany.
That said, I still really like it here.
betterbait on
Having lived in both country and from a subjective viewpoint: I am not so sure. It very much depends on the operator.
Plus, the price of train rides in the UK is insane.
You can get an annual 1st class Bahncard 100 that lets you ride any train you like for the entire year, for the same price that you would be paying for an annual single route Colchester – Marylebone ticket.
ntropy83 on
I have the impression that they dont care for punctuality anymore in Germany. When I left Frankfut a.M. punctual with the ICE, it started there on its route to the Netherlands. And the first stop was cologne, where I wanted to reach the next train. Yet my train was 30 minutes late in cologne. How can this happen on the first stop of the route ?
Excellent_Weather496 on
Is this bad vs worse?
bencze on
Paywalled article.
wurst_katastrophe on
They are on time most of the time if not cancelled due to engineering works. Things that annoy me in the UK:
– Too many train operators: Greater Anglia, Great Northern, East Midlands Railway, LNER , just in my region. Easy to buy the wrong ticket and get fined or have to rebuy.
– Barriers: can’t get used to them. Such a faff especially if you have stuff to carry or take your bike.
– Expensive as no monthly discounted tickets offered
– Too many train driver strikes and engineering works over the recent years have put me off even thinking of taking the train
Blakut on
but if you weigh by cost for passengers and coverage?
Psychological_Sea902 on
Not surprising. Germany’s trains have already reached overcapacity in the network. The frequency of the trains is crucial for the calculation, and British trains simply run less frequently than German ones, especially off the main routes. In regional traffic, there can sometimes be significant gaps in the schedule of 1-2 hours, which relieves the network and improves the quotas.
roald_1911 on
Well, Germany invested in highways, to make the automakers happy.
cheese_plant on
still would rather take German trains than uk trains
still easier to buy tickets and navigate from a to b, plus local public transport is also usually better connected
BenMic81 on
Part of the current unpunctualness is the amount of maintenance that was postponed and is now performed. It will probably get worse before it gets better.
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Both are unreliable and should be better. UK privatised everything and lost control. Germany kept an element of control and made the conscious decision to let it rot.
German network and rolling stock is on average better. UK ticketing system is opaque and infuriating. At least Germany has spar and flexpreis. Within city transport is so much better in Germany.
So yeah, I’d prefer DB than travel around northern England by train.
Shocker. /s
I was honestly surprised when I moved over here how someone actually made their railway worse than the UK. Then I realised, efficiency and bureaucracy seem to get switched in the translation to the outside world from inside Germany.
That said, I still really like it here.
Having lived in both country and from a subjective viewpoint: I am not so sure. It very much depends on the operator.
Plus, the price of train rides in the UK is insane.
You can get an annual 1st class Bahncard 100 that lets you ride any train you like for the entire year, for the same price that you would be paying for an annual single route Colchester – Marylebone ticket.
I have the impression that they dont care for punctuality anymore in Germany. When I left Frankfut a.M. punctual with the ICE, it started there on its route to the Netherlands. And the first stop was cologne, where I wanted to reach the next train. Yet my train was 30 minutes late in cologne. How can this happen on the first stop of the route ?
Is this bad vs worse?
Paywalled article.
They are on time most of the time if not cancelled due to engineering works. Things that annoy me in the UK:
– Too many train operators: Greater Anglia, Great Northern, East Midlands Railway, LNER , just in my region. Easy to buy the wrong ticket and get fined or have to rebuy.
– Barriers: can’t get used to them. Such a faff especially if you have stuff to carry or take your bike.
– Expensive as no monthly discounted tickets offered
– Too many train driver strikes and engineering works over the recent years have put me off even thinking of taking the train
but if you weigh by cost for passengers and coverage?
Not surprising. Germany’s trains have already reached overcapacity in the network. The frequency of the trains is crucial for the calculation, and British trains simply run less frequently than German ones, especially off the main routes. In regional traffic, there can sometimes be significant gaps in the schedule of 1-2 hours, which relieves the network and improves the quotas.
Well, Germany invested in highways, to make the automakers happy.
still would rather take German trains than uk trains
still easier to buy tickets and navigate from a to b, plus local public transport is also usually better connected
Part of the current unpunctualness is the amount of maintenance that was postponed and is now performed. It will probably get worse before it gets better.