La Casa Bianca di Kiev si implora mentre Zelenskyy racconta la verità su Trump | Julian Borger
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/kyivs-white-house-wooing-implodes-as-zelenskyy-tells-the-truth-about-trump
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La Casa Bianca di Kiev si implora mentre Zelenskyy racconta la verità su Trump | Julian Borger
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/kyivs-white-house-wooing-implodes-as-zelenskyy-tells-the-truth-about-trump
di AKL_wino
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How incredibly sad and depressing we have such a truthful phrase as this to ponder:
“In this new world where the foreign policy of the most powerful country on Earth has been rapidly reorganised around the fragile ego of a sullen and resentful old man…”
This billionaire comedian’s jokes are no longer funny.
Oh come on, he didn’t even say anything he didn’t say before. He already said that Putin is trying to manipulate Trump, this is saying the exact same thing using different words.
And nobody publicly said the actual truth yet. There is no “disinformation”. The entire charade of the “negotiations” is set up with the idea to rile up Ukrainians so republicans can point fingers at them. If anything, I’d wager Zelenskyy thought this “disinformation” comment would be the most innocuous and diplomatic comment possible, given the actual truth.
European politicians should learn from Zelenskyy.
They should stop having this normalcy bias where they talk themselves out of what we are all actually witnessing. Start speaking the truth about Trump and his gangsters. Nothing wrong with returning fire once in a while.
Zelensky is a hero. I don’t know of any other western world leader who would have stayed in his capital with an enemy army 20km away that wanted to kill you.
Even now Zelensky stands up to trump like no other leader in Europe.
Ukrainian soldiers have fought for their own freedom in a way that most Europeans or Americans since the 1930s don’t understand
Fuck trump.
Fuck anyone who voted for trump
Fuck any European leader who sides with trump
Long live Ukraine!
Long live Europe
Long live freedom!
Edit: typo
Zelensky will probably be made eat shit and apologise to Trump privately.
Trump, ever the touchy self-absorbed narcissist does not like home truths.
Ukraine desperately needs US support, but it is now hanging by a single thread. Trumps team and Trump himself have made some devastating comments this last week. I’m sure Zelensky just had enough.
NATO and Europe have to look Putin in the eye and not back down.
If Ukraine is offered an impossible deal, it has to walk. It will only be prolonging their eventual take-over if there are no concrete security measures.
Zelensky is what Putin and Trump will never be. A leader.
It’s devastating to watch how the orange thing and the clique behind him mocks the effort and the loses of a nation just wanted to be free. It makes me puke!
Zelensky had to try for appearances but the Russian stooge was never going to do anything but sell him out
I believe Zelensky over anything Drumpf says.
There’s a lot to be said about Zelensky, but of course Trump hates him. After all, Zelensky actually is the big strong man and “hero” that Trump wants to be viewed as.
Him calling Zelensky a “moderately successful comedian” that has weaseled himself to power is such projection it’s almost comical.
Someone had to tell the truth .
There was no wooing
Man Russian TV is more balanced than The Guardian. I can’t even use digital copies to wrap fish.
Europe must stop TALKING and start DOING
We elected him in an election. There have always been questions about him, but we all agree on one thing: he is our leader until we elect a new one. And an election is only possible after we win. And so far, he’s been great on foreign policy all along.
I think Zelenskyy has realised there is no bargaining or working with trump. The moment trump took the whitehouse Ukraine lost its support and Russia gained a new ally. It’s up to Europe now.
We’re always saying time goes by too fast. Not with this president! Four years will age us all by decades.
The meltdown on all these subs is phenomenal to see. Lol
I think guardian over dramatise here. He said that 4% is a known disinformation campaign from Kremlin, and trump just took it from his disinformation sphere that he is being surrounded. It wasn’t some sort of a F*u thing
Should Ukraine and Europe (if they can all agree) simply ignore what Trump and Putin come up with for a peace plan that would be the biggest win possible. It would destroy Trumps credibility in the USA making him look ineffective and weak bringing him down to planet earth. With Putin he would be wondering where to turn next with new found Europe unity. Big “IF” though. Would be a huge test of resolve on Europes behalf.
Zelensky will always be a hero. Trump will always be the shit stain that imploded the US.
Remember “Trump IS the puppet”
trump is a Russain asset, it’s not a disinfo bubble. He’s doing exactly what he’s being told to do by Putin and the friendly oligarchs.
A fully integrated Ukraine would be a crown jewel for Europe, not just the EU.
I cannot believe I have lived to see a leader that will be talked about in the same history lessons as Nelson, Napoleon, Belisarius …even George Washington.
If the US/Russia come with an agreement on Ukraine how will they enforce it? Attack Ukraine again? Europe, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Korea and the rest of the non-insane world needs to stand up for Ukraine as they fight back against evil.
I wish Trump all the Big Macs in the world. The more the better. He should ditch the diet soda too.
And still…Europe can’t offer him a better deal…