Il Primo Ministro belga de Wever vuole passi verso un esercito europeo: “una chiamata di risveglio molto dura”
https://www.hln.be/nieuws/de-wever-n-va-wil-stappen-zetten-naar-europese-defensiemacht-een-zeer-harde-wake-upcall~a3017dde/
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Prime Minister Bart De Wever wants to take steps towards a European Army. He said this on Thursday afternoon in front of the camera of Villa Politica on VRT 1. According to De Wever, US President Trump’s communication is a “very harsh wake-up call”. Tomorrow, the prime minister will also call Ukrainian President Zelensky, he informed the House.
To the Europeans that believe Europe’s 50 fragmented brigades would fare sufficiently well against Russia’s 250 brigades if Ukraine’s 110 brigades were no longer standing between the two, I have a bridge to sell you.
The only solution is a European Army. With Ukrainians part of it.
Defense spending 1.3% of gdp. Opinion rejected.
To be fair, De Wever (Vlaams Belang) would be one of the last from whom I would expect these words.
Before there are talks about a European Army it would suffice if everyone simply steps up their national game to begin with. Reaching for the sweetest fruit, that will stay unattainable for some time, instead of acting on what can be done right here and now, is the reason nothing has happened for a while.
There is simply no need for a European Army due to a organisation that already exists – NATO. But either way it requires the material, manpower and readiness above all.
It’s a long road to get there but if we plant the seeds now maybe in the future it’s a possibility. In the short term we might be better off rearming and restructuring to being more independent in procurements, but in doing that we definitely work in the direction towards it.
It’s going to take a while before this broken clock shows the correct time again so let’s make use of the momentum!
*Ceterum censeo exercitum Europaeum esse creandum.*
i would have been against closer integration and an eu army before, but now, i dint think theres another option. we dont want to be like the german states of the 1700s, scattered and easy to pick off one by one. we need to be a block capable of defending our lives and way of life now, from both Russia and the US
Exacly, we do need a fully integrated Europe at all levels: fiscal, military, political etc
So basically NATO but instead of the US whining about memberstates not paying their due itll be France? Bruh
Not going to happen a whole lot of countries had a sook as weren’t invited to the Paris meeting. Will never get agreement for European army.
these fuckwits keep talking and acting like we are on a months-years timetable for drastic change of courrse when we have weeks before this escalates into something very nasty
Indeed. Start working.
It’s time for EU to stop bickering and link arms. There’s no time for much discussion and any country wanting to leave the union is utterly bonkers or already compromised.
As a Belgian I was kinda suprised reading this. Havent beein in Belgium for a decade though, but I a was pretty certain he was a Belgian sepperatist and anti EU?
This is now the 3rd or 4th very hard wake up call?
A european army, without any of the states interfering that they want their very special version of equipment that needs to be newly designed, is long overdue (just get the stuff that is already available, from EU supplier)
the basic model would need to be similar to the USA simply to avoid complications, where there is a union force, and each state can still have a national one if they want to (US Army and the National Guards)
but we need to start now
Give Ukraine the frozen 300 billion to pay for what it needs while you are at it.. let’s be honest Russia China and the states won’t be storing money in Europe for safe keeping anymore. Just spent it.. none of those nations care about law and rules so whilst they will complain just tell them until they leave Ukraine and pay for dames the money is gone.
Ukraine is part of Europe and defens from Russia invesion in Moldova or start lurn russian lengrige. I help: we surrender – my sdaemsa
We don’t need that. Every country just needs to put in their share of GDP towards defense budgets and maintain their army. The differences in culture, language etc are too big. if you expect everyone that join EU army to speak common language you are just being silly. it is not happening. we already have rapid reaction force, maybe just increase the size of those. Or if some countries don’t want to increase it make them pay it to an EU budget and allocate the funds for the militaries on the front lines of NATO/EU: Finland, Baltic States, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, etc.
The other wake up call should be understanding that billionaires and current economic systems are the source of far right support, because people see their quality of life degrading, and part of the American problem, and that we should be taking from them and their companies the funds to make this happen, and possibly be energy independent (finally with renewables/nuclear power).
Politicians in Europe are to slow thinking that’s how they fallen from 1th economy in the world to 3rd and continue falling non stop
Good. What’s the focus on individual national defenses worth when surrounded by allies all bound to a single union?
Time for action. Enough words.
And this time for real…. Stop this bull@#$ there will be no EU army, now and probably (hopefully) never. And i`m speaking as a Pole.
Let’s start with the little things, a common tank, rifle, uniform pattern, or socks?
There is certainly a reality around the fact that military spending needs to start translating into combat brigades immediately. Lots of countries have astronomical defense budgets but when you look at what they are doing with them it’s veteran pensions, transport aircraft, trainer aircraft and cyber defense. I am not saying these things aren’t important but when you can’t deploy a single brigade to fight maybe you should focus on having more soldiers, small arms, vehicles and artillery first. The % GDP spend is a completely insufficient metric to measure military prowess as it hides a lot of bullshit spend. We should measure number of brigades that can be mobilised.