Il Cremlino è “totalmente sbalordito” dalle concessioni di Trump a Putin, afferma l’ex funzionario russo – traduzione nei commenti

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    1. opinionate_rooster on

      Why are they surprised at their asset delivering?

    2. “The art of the deal = kiss the russian boot” Haha

      Traitors.

    3. PROMEENZ on

      That’s just a show to dispel suspicions about the US presient being a russian asset.

    4. capracucinciiezi on

      Translation:

      > The Kremlin appears surprised by how quickly US President Donald Trump made concessions to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin even before negotiations to end Moscow’s war in Ukraine began, Vladimir Milov, a former deputy Russian energy minister, told CNN.

      > The Kremlin expected Trump to put certain conditions on Russia, and Moscow was “preparing some kind of offers here and there to make what they call a deal,” said Vladimir Milov, a former adviser to the late Russian opposition leader Aleksei Navalny. Speaking from exile in Vilnius, Milov says that based on what he has heard, “everyone in Moscow is now totally stunned that they were given all the concessions they wanted, even before the negotiations started.” “This is a shocking result, even by Vladimir Putin’s standards,” Milov commented, according to the source quoted by News.ro.

      > Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart Volodimir Zelenski relation was blown up this week. Trump has exactly echoed Moscow’s views, wrongly accusing Ukraine of starting the war and saying the Ukrainian president should hold elections that have been suspended because of the conflict. After Zelenski retaliated, accusing him of being in a “disinformation bubble”, Trump escalated the war of statements and called the Ukrainian leader a “dictator”.
      > Probably encouraged by the conflict between Ukraine and the US, Moscow’s conditions seem to be accelerating in recent days, Milov noted, saying that “Moscow is clearly encouraged by Trump’s unwillingness to impose conditions on Russia”. Russia has long argued that NATO enlargement jeopardized its security and justified its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 with this argument as well. That claim has been dismissed by Western leaders as a false justification for launching its war.

    5. Any_Hyena_5257 on

      But Vladimirovich, he said he’d never do anal! Turns out he is happy to take it very well, I am stunned.

    6. Smartimess on

      „We expected nothing and this orange idiot gave us everything. Igor fell out of kremlin window because he was laughing so hard.“

    7. donatas_xyz on

      It’s a personal vendetta for trump. To all who wronged him, impeached him, called him names. He will sell US and Europe to “stunned” russia simply out of spite, whilst US and Europe will be looking for some grand plan, 4D chess strategy in trump’s actions.

      And to this very moment, they still can’t accept the fact that anyone can be so utterly stupid to vote for someone like him and that trump himself can be of that level of stupidity, because – look at the point 1 – no sane person would vote for him.

      And no, he’s not a businessman either. He’s one of the worst businessmen on the planet, if so. All he’s is a conman. One that many fell for. Twice now. At this point, it’s a choice. So don’t keep your illusions about the US. Stick together Europe. This is our only chance.

    8. We need to stop expecting anything from the US, they’ve gone batshit crazy and they’re unreliable. We need to see this as a great opportunity for Europe to strengthen our military and get rid of the US influence.

      The Pax Americana is over. Let the yanks deal with their bullshit alone, I don’t have much hope for them though, their institutions are a joke.

      All it took was a billionaire buffoon controlling the supreme court, congress and senate.

    9. Artistic_Worker_5138 on

      Soon their paranoia will take over and they begin to suspect it’s all conspiracy against them – it can’t be this easy.

    10. rachelm791 on

      Those videos clearly have some stuff in them that will result in Trump’s abject humiliation. Better keep over delivering.

    11. Durumbuzafeju on

      So that idiot will ruin a forty-years long KGB operation by being too keen on fulfilling every whim of Putin! Well, how about choosing sane people as secret agents next time?

    12. SachinhoDoBrazil on

      Trump has been saved from bankruptcy by Russian oligarchs, when he was a real estate promoter. Trump is now paying his debt by offering the Cold War victory to Russia. KGB>CIA

    13. Striking-Fix7012 on

      Donald has dual-citizenship that’s why: one US; one Russian. Why are you stunned?

    14. Decebalus_Bombadil on

      It looks like those SNL sketches from a few years ago with Putler and Trump.

    15. When you negotiated with Russia and they leave smiling from ear to ear, you fucked up.

    16. “Man, I am soo surprised that our employee of the month agent Krasnov, is doing such a fantastic job.” – Russia

    17. Inside_Ad_7162 on

      oh fuck off.

      This is directed at the headline, btw. You’ll have to imagine the sneer I said it with.

      *The man we’ve controlled for decades is doing everything we said!*

    18. YusoLOCO on

      They are gaslighting. They knew exactly what he would do, he is a Russian asset, they have a huge kompromat on him

    19. “Krasnov, you are doing fantastic, you deliver before we even ask. But please put at least some condition on us because it starts to look sus”

    20. Russian here.

      You can see it happening in the government and in the propaganda department. Most of the propaganda was about opposing the LGBT-infested USA with traditional values and how Russia wants to end its “defensive” war and make itself heard.

      Now Trump comes and says literally the exact same things – going for traditional values, listening to Russia, and ending the war.

      This completely stumped everyone because what are you supposed to say and do now, when after decades of confrontation with the US, the anti-US narrative does a complete 180 and – almost magically – everything Trump proposes is what Putin wants?

    21. Crazy_Response_9009 on

      lol no they’re not. The plan is working just as they’d hoped. That’s why they hired him.

    22. The craziest thing is that Russia probably was at its weakest right now, after years of war.

      It would not make sense to anyone that this is the time when the literal most powerful country on earth would be doing concession to the weakened opponent, if you were to follow logic and believe that their leader isn’t compromised.

    23. Of course they are stunned. The plan that actually worked – like they saw a unicorn.

      This being said, I want to raise my concerns about the kind of “Russian experts” that gain traction in the international media. Milov, seriously? That sensationalism merchant Milov, who predicts that the Russian economy will collapse within a month on a monthly basis since 2022. Blatantly selling what everyone wants to hear.

      He cannot possibly know how much Kremlin is stunned. Not more than you or me.

      This reminds me of some British media outlets that a while ago unironically referred to the “General SVR” telegram channel, that is led by the infamous Professor Solovey, who claims that Putin died in October 2023.

      And this is not Kremlin misinformation per se. It is just some weird world view, in which one simultaneously do not want to hear any Russians at all and finds those exact Russians who make the least sense, but are ready to comment on everything.

    24. museum_lifestyle on

      At the rate it’s going, Trump is going to offer Poland to Putin as well.

    25. kingjobus on

      I really don’t understand this. Trump has complete control in the US just now so why is he buddying up to a sick Russia? It doesn’t make sense, especially when he is doing it at the expense of the largest allies of the US. There is no gain to be had. It’s like if you had a nice family and you decide to burn all your connections with then to go hang out with a violent homeless person under a bridge.

    26. Kimchi-slap on

      Even if Kremlin had nothing to with Trump being their asset, noone would believe them at this point. What a time to be alive.

    27. KernunQc7 on

      John Bolton:”They’re drinking vodka straight out of the bottle in the Kremlin right now.”

      He called it.

    28. kodos_der_henker on

      All this gives a lot of pre-WW2 vibes with Chamberlain and Hitler

      The Germans were also stunned after Britain giving in after putting german troops back into the Rhineland making the leadership much more confident on their coming moves

      Also the governments of the western world seeing communism as the bigger threat over fascism is coming back in a similar situation with US oligarchy seeing the EU is the bigger problem over Putins regime

      History doesn’t repeat Itself, but It often rhymes (Mark Twain) and those who do not learn from it are doomed to repeat it

      For things not getting worse, a strong EU might be our only hope

    29. Normal-Stick6437 on

      There is no conspiracy or some Manchurian candidate plot. Putko got lucky as these idiots do. He wanted de jure acknowledgement that Krim is Russia a boy got half of Ukraine and US troops out of Eastern Europe. Trump, Putin, Must, Boris…these ppl are not some Machiavellian masterminds….they are failing up, somehow

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