Ultimo dei signori irlandesi: “C’è una relazione di odio-amore tra i titoli irlandesi e anglo”-The Irish Times

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2025/02/23/last-of-the-irish-lords-theres-a-love-hate-relationship-between-irish-people-and-anglo-titles/

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    1. Significant-Roll-138 on

      I’d say it’s more of a hate-hate relationship to be honest.

    2. pauli55555 on

      There is no love, we know the history of these titles and what they meant to our ancestors.

    3. shorelined on

      What a ridiculous system. There was a complaint in the article that abolishing the hereditary peers will clear the way for more open abuse of party nominations. The hereditary peers seem to forget that the only reason they have their titles is because the monarch nominated one of their ancestors in the first place. Both party nominations and the hereditary systems should be gone, and the Lords becomes a fully-elected upper chamber.

      Back here, I only wish that the Seanad was fully democratic too.

    4. Article 40.2 of the Constitution of Ireland makes our attitude towards hereditary titles and honours pretty clear actually:

      1° Titles of nobility shall not be conferred by the State.

      2° No title of nobility or of honour may be accepted by any citizen except with the prior approval of the Government.

    5. Bill_Badbody on

      The comments about it being “hate-hate” I think miss the mark of the actual lived experience with Lords these days.

      Like lord inchiquin(dromoland castle) died a year or two ago. It was a big funeral because he was generally like by most people.

      Mostly now these families are just like any other wealthy family.

    6. ACARVIN1980 on

      Labour would be better off reforming it, getting rid of the party hacks , making it a genuine reviewing body ,before bothering with the hereditary peers.

    7. ban_jaxxed on

      Alexander Feilding, the Earl of Desmond, a title historically linked to Munster. But he also holds the title of the Grand Carver of England, **a hereditary role in the royal household that means he carves the king’s meat at official dinners.**

      Entirely normal behavior…

    8. HairyMcBoon on

      What fucking planet are these clowns on?

      Wistfully thinking about Eire, worried about their poor make-y up-y “titles,” give me a fucking break.

      The piece should be titled, “Last of the Irish Lords- lol.”

    9. hughsheehy on

      What the heck is this supposed to mean?

      “London-born but with an easy Hibernian manner”

      Whole article reads as if it was written for Elle or Cosmopolitan.

    10. Of course, the west Brits would love this. They’re also the ones that are the most vocal on Ireland joining the commonwealth. Anything to be subservient and bend the knee.

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