Il pub storico di Conway su Parnell Street di Dublino “Endangersed”, afferma il Consiglio – The Irish Times

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2025/02/21/historic-conways-pub-on-parnell-street-endangered-says-council/

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    1. Massive-Foot-5962 on

      Maybe we shouldn’t force developers to spend 20 years cobbling together planning permissions and then we wouldn’t have situations like this.

    2. BigDrummerGorilla on

      It should be in productive use 9 years after purchase, whether the blame lies with the developer or the council.

      I have never understood why there is so little enforcement regarding dereliction in Dublin. My grandmother’s lived in a historical house, outside of Ireland. As it was in a central, touristed area and historical value, it was inspected to ensure compliance with high structural and aesthetic standards. If a building was left derelict or out of productive use, you faced massive levies. So you were left with the choice of the local authority collecting huge levies from you, or you brought the building up standard. Win win.

    3. Have the same surname ,I remember my dad messing with me when I was young saying that’s your uncles pub every time we walked by it.

      I always wondered why it was left to decay to such a state over the years.

    4. AnyAssistance4197 on

      Hammerson’s have been letting whole blocks of that part of the city fall into absolute disrepair so there’s no alternative but for their plans around Moore St to be rammed through. An absolute shame. Such rot in the heart of the city, metaphorically and literally.

      It gets worse when you find out that other sites in the area, around Moore St that are in ruin were owned by NAMA and sold to Hammersons under Project Jewel who are assembling property around the area for their “Dublin Central” project (see: [https://www.hammerson.com/developments/dublin-central-dublin](https://www.hammerson.com/developments/dublin-central-dublin) ).

      What is totally mad about the whole thing is that the lad who “led the team which arranged the disposal of Project Jewel, one of the largest portfolios sold by NAMA, which included the…distressed loans of developer Joe O’Reilly” (see: [https://villagemagazine.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Ed-Moore.pdf](https://villagemagazine.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Ed-Moore.pdf) ) jumped ship shortly afterwards to work directly for Hammersons as the head of their Irish operation (see: [https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/nama-s-connor-owens-tipped-to-head-hammerson-s-irish-arm-1.4382226](https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/nama-s-connor-owens-tipped-to-head-hammerson-s-irish-arm-1.4382226) ).

      People should be absolutely livid over this stuff. It’s totally nuts. Where else would you get it?

    5. RobotIcHead on

      Someone not far from me growing had a house that was considered historic, she had inherited it from her parents. She had an altercation with a council official or someone about the upkeep on her house in later years, she had long since retired, but he apparently started lecturing her about what she had to do to preserve it. She had a quote from a builder about it before hand and it was beyond her means. He kept telling her she didn’t have a choice. She got mad at the guy and said he was great at spending her money to do something she didn’t want to do. He apparently had a history of rubbing owners the wrong way.

      I am not big on preserving historic buildings, especially in cities and this one does not seem historic. Collect and document the history, photograph the hell out of it and stick it in an archive. Let the site be used for something else. Let the street change.

      A lot of the surrounding areas are at least newer if a bit soulless and there are also a lot empty sites around too. I am not sure it could be a pub anyway, the pub industry in Ireland is in decline. Even reading the article it feels like competing bureaucracies are fighting for control.

    6. Historical-Hat8326 on

      Didn’t the various owners of the pub have a massive falling out resulting in closure and current dereliction?

      Always wanted to sink a creamy Guinness in the place like Sonny Curley in The Snapper.

    7. anyeights on

      It has one of the most unique gold leaf fascia signs I’ve seen in Ireland, I hope it’s salvaged. 

    8. AquaSeafoamSpray on

      There should not be one single building left looking like this at any time in our country, let alone in the middle of a housing crisis. Even if it was just a potemkin facade that looked like a pub it’d be better than this, looks in a worse state than a Ukrainian village ffs. We’re rich. This country is so fucking rich. Rich enough to spend billions housing the displaced people of the world and cutting amazingly good tax deals for the super rich… Where’s our shake of the fuckin bag? Can we at least just clean the place up a tint bit and have a bit of pride. Fuck me it’s like herding cats. 

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