Dispelling the myth that US is providing disproportionately amounts of support to Ukraine.
SmakenAvBajs on
The Nordics together is killing it, or killing Russians I guess.
mediumsizemonkey on
If you say Europe rather than EU, and add UK and Norway, it’s extremely one-sided. Not that the US’ contribution from the previous government wasn’t massive and hugely important, of course.
DarrensDodgyDenim on
We ought to do more in Norway. Come on Jonas.
Aware-Chipmunk4344 on
1. Russia must either be not against Ukraine joining NATO, or agree to European countries’ sending between 30,000 to 300,000 peacekeeping troops to Ukraine. If Russia can’t agree to either of the above, there could be no ceasefire, let alone any long-term peace agreement. The war will continue, and all democratic countries shall support Ukraine to the end. The US can decide to support Ukraine or Russia according to its own wish.
2. The mineral deal between Ukraine and the US will only take effect after a ceasefire or peace agreement is reached between Ukraine and Russia, to prevent the US from forcing Ukraine to sign an unfair agreement, such as one that includes a clause forbidding Ukraine from joining NATO.
tbwdtw on
Yo shout out to Denmark
mg979 on
Zelensky shouldn’t sign any US crap. It’s ridiculous how low they’ve fallen.
Pure_Ad6415 on
Polish contribution is underestimated. Poland gave to Ukraine more weapons than any European country
OffOption on
Im proud we Danes just opened up every cargo hold we had and went “Aight… which one you want?”
F16 fighter jets, armored troop transports, artillery, towed and self propelled, shells, bullets, rifles, general supplies, civilian relief, just money… fuck it. Why not.
Now, as long as the rest of the Euros got our back against yank imperialism, we got Ukraines back against the ruskie kind.
Until all three of those peoples find freedom, we cant let our guard down.
Starting with helping our Ukrainian allies.
Slava Ukraine
IronicStrikes on
Aren’t these charts basically meaningless as long as countries use different accounting methods and have different policies on what they disclose at all?
NotThatPro on
Thank you for posting this
Wolnight on
Italy being so low is embarrassing…
activedusk on
The exact figure is even more controversial. Not uniquely American but applies to them as well, the weapons, gear, etc. provided to Ukraine is valued at full retail price despite being surplus, reserve or refurbished and would have been discarded in a few years. Were there some new stuff mixed in there? Sure, but most of it was/is not new production, but they value it as such.
Even more special is the fact that, for example, the US spent untold thousands of billions (as in trillions) in countries like Afghanistan and they got squat out of it too.
How much is the aid value at to date? Under 100 billion with much of it being inflated value refubished gear.
Folks, US is finding excuses to retreat militarily from Europe because they want to cut spending, stop trying to frame the current administration position through the logic of Ukraine vs Russia or EU standing with Ukraine as opposed to China, North Korea, India and other BRICS nations supporting Russia both in buying the fossil fuel exports or providing weapons and merceneries as China and North Korea have done. That is not what US cares about, taking sides, it cares about getting a good deal and going home. Let them, it’s their money in the end. Is it a shitty time to leave and is it annoying they flare up discord by cozying up to Russians? Sure, but the goal does not change, US isolationism and tending to internal affairs like budget deficit, trade deficit, immigration etc. that is what matters to Americans more than a little known country (to them) that is an ocean away.
xFirnen on
Honestly surprised how big the contribution from Japan is, you don’t really hear a lot about it unless I’ve been living under a rock.
Also, step up your game France! You shouldn’t be so far behind Germany and the UK!
morbihann on
Even that is too charitable to the US.
colonel_vgp on
And that’s without Norway and UK. Wow.
pan_Ropuch on
And now, how much EU paid for russian oil and gas since the beginning of war?
GloomySource410 on
Rðrè
_R0Ns_ on
And don’t forget that the weapons we all donate to Ukraine are bought from the US. If you would do the calc (I did not) the US weapons industry made some fine profit from the war in Ukraine.
AveryValiant on
Sad thing is, even if you printed this off and handed it to Trump, he would still claim the same thing over and over.
relddot on
And how much did China send?
Flesh_And_Metal on
And I guess this is only the government numbers?
Volontary contribute from the… Resistance is not negliable. Blågula bilen (https://www.blagulabilen.se/en/) has donated 884 vehicles. All paid for by private donation. This is just one organisation out of many.
Firefly17pdr on
Considering how big the UK is, its pretty impressive how much its given to Ukraine.
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[Source: Kiel Institute Ukraine Support Tracker](https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/).
Dispelling the myth that US is providing disproportionately amounts of support to Ukraine.
The Nordics together is killing it, or killing Russians I guess.
If you say Europe rather than EU, and add UK and Norway, it’s extremely one-sided. Not that the US’ contribution from the previous government wasn’t massive and hugely important, of course.
We ought to do more in Norway. Come on Jonas.
1. Russia must either be not against Ukraine joining NATO, or agree to European countries’ sending between 30,000 to 300,000 peacekeeping troops to Ukraine. If Russia can’t agree to either of the above, there could be no ceasefire, let alone any long-term peace agreement. The war will continue, and all democratic countries shall support Ukraine to the end. The US can decide to support Ukraine or Russia according to its own wish.
2. The mineral deal between Ukraine and the US will only take effect after a ceasefire or peace agreement is reached between Ukraine and Russia, to prevent the US from forcing Ukraine to sign an unfair agreement, such as one that includes a clause forbidding Ukraine from joining NATO.
Yo shout out to Denmark
Zelensky shouldn’t sign any US crap. It’s ridiculous how low they’ve fallen.
Polish contribution is underestimated. Poland gave to Ukraine more weapons than any European country
Im proud we Danes just opened up every cargo hold we had and went “Aight… which one you want?”
F16 fighter jets, armored troop transports, artillery, towed and self propelled, shells, bullets, rifles, general supplies, civilian relief, just money… fuck it. Why not.
Now, as long as the rest of the Euros got our back against yank imperialism, we got Ukraines back against the ruskie kind.
Until all three of those peoples find freedom, we cant let our guard down.
Starting with helping our Ukrainian allies.
Slava Ukraine
Aren’t these charts basically meaningless as long as countries use different accounting methods and have different policies on what they disclose at all?
Thank you for posting this
Italy being so low is embarrassing…
The exact figure is even more controversial. Not uniquely American but applies to them as well, the weapons, gear, etc. provided to Ukraine is valued at full retail price despite being surplus, reserve or refurbished and would have been discarded in a few years. Were there some new stuff mixed in there? Sure, but most of it was/is not new production, but they value it as such.
Even more special is the fact that, for example, the US spent untold thousands of billions (as in trillions) in countries like Afghanistan and they got squat out of it too.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/09/world/middleeast/afghanistan-war-cost.html
How much is the aid value at to date? Under 100 billion with much of it being inflated value refubished gear.
Folks, US is finding excuses to retreat militarily from Europe because they want to cut spending, stop trying to frame the current administration position through the logic of Ukraine vs Russia or EU standing with Ukraine as opposed to China, North Korea, India and other BRICS nations supporting Russia both in buying the fossil fuel exports or providing weapons and merceneries as China and North Korea have done. That is not what US cares about, taking sides, it cares about getting a good deal and going home. Let them, it’s their money in the end. Is it a shitty time to leave and is it annoying they flare up discord by cozying up to Russians? Sure, but the goal does not change, US isolationism and tending to internal affairs like budget deficit, trade deficit, immigration etc. that is what matters to Americans more than a little known country (to them) that is an ocean away.
Honestly surprised how big the contribution from Japan is, you don’t really hear a lot about it unless I’ve been living under a rock.
Also, step up your game France! You shouldn’t be so far behind Germany and the UK!
Even that is too charitable to the US.
And that’s without Norway and UK. Wow.
And now, how much EU paid for russian oil and gas since the beginning of war?
Rðrè
And don’t forget that the weapons we all donate to Ukraine are bought from the US. If you would do the calc (I did not) the US weapons industry made some fine profit from the war in Ukraine.
Sad thing is, even if you printed this off and handed it to Trump, he would still claim the same thing over and over.
And how much did China send?
And I guess this is only the government numbers?
Volontary contribute from the… Resistance is not negliable. Blågula bilen (https://www.blagulabilen.se/en/) has donated 884 vehicles. All paid for by private donation. This is just one organisation out of many.
Considering how big the UK is, its pretty impressive how much its given to Ukraine.
I saw different data before.