You know things have really gone batshit crazy when you start agreeing with everything that a (likely) German chancellor states on international policy.
katunar3000 on
And now? It’s time to act like you care, but Orban doesn’t. It looks like a strategy to me.
Mormegil1971 on
No shit.
I’ve seen better scripts in XXX movies. And better acting.
ButteredNun on
Of-fucking-course it was!! They goaded Zelensky wanting / expecting a reaction. Zelensky has more dignity in his little finger than Trump and Vance have in their entire bodies.
Sendflutespls on
Could be. And we should act accordingly.
We are a superpower, strongest in many aspects. ( why you think whole world are picking fights?)
Soft_Difficulty6978 on
They wanted a reason to stop the military aid to ukraine and they did this by having zelensky in the white House and accusing him of disrespecting united states, it is crystal clear to anyone with a brain, MAGA’s though will believe anything of course.
vicblaga87 on
No shit sherlock. First, they tried to call Zelensky dictator. That backfired, so they did a Jerry Springer show. Now with their media doing 24/7 outrage baiting, they can say “see, he didn’t thank us, we’re gonna stop aid now and force them to capitulate”.
In other news, I’m happy that the incoming German chancellor finally has the balls to actually call it as it is and not hide behind diplomatic niceties. Now hope the Germans put their money where their mouth is and spend like crazy on military and much needed other things.
Il_Conservatore on
When Merz is gonna call US an open enemy and kick NATO mercenaries out of his country?
No_Window8199 on
somebody finally said it
Richcore on
It’s more like a descalation of the conflict but European politicians prefer the conflict.
Penderbron on
That’s what it was, no one here is dumb. We see what’s up.
Correct_Day_7791 on
💯💯
antosme on
Yes, it was
MarkMew on
Turns out Merz has eyes
UberiorShanDoge on
We (Europe) need the Germans to quickly sign a coalition agreement so that Merz can attend future summits on European war funding. He will be a big voice, and having Germany represented by a lame-duck in Scholz is a limiter on forming new agreements.
uproo_tech on
It seemed to me they were pretty cool for half an hour, but then something triggered a fight
Individual-Cream-581 on
I 100% agree with Merz on this!!!
Gasgas41 on
All of this is, right down to one of his first acts of making a president immune from prosecution.
Totally orchestrated to fuck the world over for all but the super wealthy who can afford to lose and weather the whirlwind he’s unleashed.
Where Covid failed to cull, starvation and suffering will finish the job
grafknives on
I belive it wasn’t.
They totally wanted to bully Zelenski. But he stood firm.
The “dumb duo” lost their cool, exposed themselves and exited the talks way weaker.
Not only from rational point of view but even from Trump and his goals point of view.
Undefined_definition on
Summary:
“The article reports that Germany’s likely next chancellor, Friedrich Merz, described a recent confrontation in the White House as a “deliberate escalation” by President Trump. During a contentious meeting, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was mocked by Trump and Vice President JD Vance, who criticized him for not sufficiently addressing Russia’s invasion and for being ungrateful for U.S. aid. Zelenskyy had come to Washington to sign a minerals agreement and secure American support for Ukraine, but the meeting ended with him being forced to leave. Merz connected this incident to other recent tensions, such as Vance’s remarks at the Munich Security Conference, and stressed that the hostile tone was unhelpful. He emphasized the importance of maintaining American support in Europe while urging European nations to step up and back Ukraine if the U.S. withdraws from its traditional security commitments.”
pigs_from_heaven on
Just because we all know it doesn’t mean the politicians shouldn’t say it. All the “no shit” comments are a little wearisome.
wisdomHungry on
So true!
After-Platform-8543 on
It is good to see European leaders say these things aloud. I wish US ex-presidents had the same courage. It’d absolutely their job to exert influence on salvaging their country, and not just surrendering to Russia.
Useful_Inspector2718 on
Trump is simply a puppet for Putin. Putin has the pee pee tapes
arkhamknight85 on
No fucking shit.
and69 on
Really? I am firmly convinced after watching that in fact Zelensky is the one who wants to continue the war and to escalate.
Sad-Sample-6096 on
And the script was written by Putin
CriticalBath2367 on
There’s no flies on this politician, he’s sharp.
Muzle84 on
Yep. Weaken Russia and Europe for an easier fight against China.
The art of the fuckery
Confident-Pressure64 on
Trump was always going to pull his support for Ukraine! He’s petty, shallow and unforgiving! The Ukrainians have to pay with their lives for the slight that Trump perceives as a challenge to his macho image! This move is a slap in the face to democratic governments all over the world. This is a clear indication that America is no longer a democracy but an authoritarian nation run by one small man! I hope Ukraine survives!
CreateSolution on
Merz is a banker, he worked for Black Rock in the recent years.
War is the fastest way to make money. So here we are. It’s all orchestrated.
Cute_Ad_9730 on
Trump is so incompetent I’d believe he had no clear plan except getting what he demanded without contention. On being challenged he can’t negotiate reasonably. The whole thing was either intentional or a miss managed farce. Either way Trump and Vance came out of it looking pathetic.
joyous_maximus on
Yes it is, no matter what zelensky does as long as he wants to protect Ukraine trump will find excuses to derail him and aid poo tin ….for obvious reasons
HairyTales on
I’m actually surprised he says that openly. Some prominent members of his party are already panicking about our relationship with the US and prefer to fall back to appeasement, when clearly there is no way to salvage the relationship.
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Because it fucking is
Yep, pretty obvious lol.
You know things have really gone batshit crazy when you start agreeing with everything that a (likely) German chancellor states on international policy.
And now? It’s time to act like you care, but Orban doesn’t. It looks like a strategy to me.
No shit.
I’ve seen better scripts in XXX movies. And better acting.
Of-fucking-course it was!! They goaded Zelensky wanting / expecting a reaction. Zelensky has more dignity in his little finger than Trump and Vance have in their entire bodies.
Could be. And we should act accordingly.
We are a superpower, strongest in many aspects. ( why you think whole world are picking fights?)
They wanted a reason to stop the military aid to ukraine and they did this by having zelensky in the white House and accusing him of disrespecting united states, it is crystal clear to anyone with a brain, MAGA’s though will believe anything of course.
No shit sherlock. First, they tried to call Zelensky dictator. That backfired, so they did a Jerry Springer show. Now with their media doing 24/7 outrage baiting, they can say “see, he didn’t thank us, we’re gonna stop aid now and force them to capitulate”.
In other news, I’m happy that the incoming German chancellor finally has the balls to actually call it as it is and not hide behind diplomatic niceties. Now hope the Germans put their money where their mouth is and spend like crazy on military and much needed other things.
When Merz is gonna call US an open enemy and kick NATO mercenaries out of his country?
somebody finally said it
It’s more like a descalation of the conflict but European politicians prefer the conflict.
That’s what it was, no one here is dumb. We see what’s up.
💯💯
Yes, it was
Turns out Merz has eyes
We (Europe) need the Germans to quickly sign a coalition agreement so that Merz can attend future summits on European war funding. He will be a big voice, and having Germany represented by a lame-duck in Scholz is a limiter on forming new agreements.
It seemed to me they were pretty cool for half an hour, but then something triggered a fight
I 100% agree with Merz on this!!!
All of this is, right down to one of his first acts of making a president immune from prosecution.
Totally orchestrated to fuck the world over for all but the super wealthy who can afford to lose and weather the whirlwind he’s unleashed.
Where Covid failed to cull, starvation and suffering will finish the job
I belive it wasn’t.
They totally wanted to bully Zelenski. But he stood firm.
The “dumb duo” lost their cool, exposed themselves and exited the talks way weaker.
Not only from rational point of view but even from Trump and his goals point of view.
Summary:
“The article reports that Germany’s likely next chancellor, Friedrich Merz, described a recent confrontation in the White House as a “deliberate escalation” by President Trump. During a contentious meeting, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was mocked by Trump and Vice President JD Vance, who criticized him for not sufficiently addressing Russia’s invasion and for being ungrateful for U.S. aid. Zelenskyy had come to Washington to sign a minerals agreement and secure American support for Ukraine, but the meeting ended with him being forced to leave. Merz connected this incident to other recent tensions, such as Vance’s remarks at the Munich Security Conference, and stressed that the hostile tone was unhelpful. He emphasized the importance of maintaining American support in Europe while urging European nations to step up and back Ukraine if the U.S. withdraws from its traditional security commitments.”
Just because we all know it doesn’t mean the politicians shouldn’t say it. All the “no shit” comments are a little wearisome.
So true!
It is good to see European leaders say these things aloud. I wish US ex-presidents had the same courage. It’d absolutely their job to exert influence on salvaging their country, and not just surrendering to Russia.
Trump is simply a puppet for Putin. Putin has the pee pee tapes
No fucking shit.
Really? I am firmly convinced after watching that in fact Zelensky is the one who wants to continue the war and to escalate.
And the script was written by Putin
There’s no flies on this politician, he’s sharp.
Yep. Weaken Russia and Europe for an easier fight against China.
The art of the fuckery
Trump was always going to pull his support for Ukraine! He’s petty, shallow and unforgiving! The Ukrainians have to pay with their lives for the slight that Trump perceives as a challenge to his macho image! This move is a slap in the face to democratic governments all over the world. This is a clear indication that America is no longer a democracy but an authoritarian nation run by one small man! I hope Ukraine survives!
Merz is a banker, he worked for Black Rock in the recent years.
War is the fastest way to make money. So here we are. It’s all orchestrated.
Trump is so incompetent I’d believe he had no clear plan except getting what he demanded without contention. On being challenged he can’t negotiate reasonably. The whole thing was either intentional or a miss managed farce. Either way Trump and Vance came out of it looking pathetic.
Yes it is, no matter what zelensky does as long as he wants to protect Ukraine trump will find excuses to derail him and aid poo tin ….for obvious reasons
I’m actually surprised he says that openly. Some prominent members of his party are already panicking about our relationship with the US and prefer to fall back to appeasement, when clearly there is no way to salvage the relationship.
Merzy has the inside scoop