Sospendere i diritti di voto dell’Ungheria
https://carnegieendowment.org/europe/strategic-europe/2025/02/suspend-hungarys-voting-rights-to-save-the-eus-credibility?lang=en
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Sospendere i diritti di voto dell’Ungheria
https://carnegieendowment.org/europe/strategic-europe/2025/02/suspend-hungarys-voting-rights-to-save-the-eus-credibility?lang=en
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Honest question, why does the EU not just kick out Hungary? What keeps us from it? Is it a legal matter? Why do we keep up with their bullshit? How do we benefit from them? The article attached is just an example of the endless anti EU stance of Hungary. When is it enough? Does anyone have more insight why this still goes on and on?
It’s shameful that Orbán openly supports Russia, but Europe has plenty of resources, even without Hungary, to give Ukraine enough weapons and money to kick the Russians out of their country in 3 months… I wonder if there will be the will to do it this time, because the edging that the Western world has been doing for years is ridiculous…
This distraction is getting boring, because Orbán could never have done anything to stop Europe from ending this war… the only reason this war is still going on is because that was the goal in the first place… Ukraine doesn’t need tweets and joint statements, it needs money and weapons…
I would assume that this is a very complicated process requiring all other countries to vote in favor, which seems highly unlikely. However, even if they did, it looks like change may be on the horizon for Hungary. Fingers crossed that the Hungarian people have had enough of Orban.
If Orbán gets a new mandate, HU should be out of the EU. We don’t need a Putin-Trump (Elon) axis in the EU.
Can’t. All other countries have to vote for it. Fico won’t.
Finally somebody say it out loud.
I really hope this is possible.
Hungary is consistently holding Europe to ransom.
I’ve been to Hungary, loved the country, and love the people, but this can’t go on.
This is not what the EU stands for. I understand, but no.
Form a different EU coalition and defund the old one?
Maybe given the circumstances it’s time we start to faff about less with the 5th column within.
So is this the future the EU wanted America to protect and die for? Vote for the politically correct thing or you don’t get to vote? Elect the politically correct leader or you’ll cancel the results?
As a Hungarian: please do it. Hope we will have change next year, I’m pessimistic though.
As a Hungarian, please do! Our government has gone rogue, they only represent their own agenda, very far removed from citizen’s opinion.
If the EU actually kicked out members when people in this sub say so, there would be no EU in 100 years. Suspension is a much better solution, although I don’t know if even that is possible
This is a slippery slope into tyranny.
Suspend voting rights and european funds for both Hungary and Slovakia.
No! Rather than suspending Hungary’s voting rights, which would be rather undemocratic, would be to change the system. This is better due to the fact other memberstates will of cource in the future from time to time voting on assähole politicians. If we allways striped the votingrights when a memberstates population went temporarily insane what would we then do if for instance the German- and/or French- populations voted on ashole governnent. Should we then strip them too and how do you think that would play out? A few years ago lots of people said that about Poland too, and now Poland is one of our best assets. So rather change how often all have to agree and how many that have to, than striping voting rights for sure. Longterm thinking is key
Just kick them out! Who doesn’t have european values and objectives, constantly pairing with the soviet agressor, doesn’t deserve to belong the UE.
if European leaders keep their word, 2025 will be the FIRST year during the Ukraine war when Europe gives more money to Ukraine than it gave to Russia to finance its war against Ukraine.
I am really interested. “Kick them out, let’s have EU without veto, suspend them” crowd, what is your scenario if let’s say AFD wins in Germany? Are we going to kick Germany out or are we going to handover the EU to nazis because they are the elected officials and give the nazis the tools to rule over the whole Europe?
I understand currently it is an easy reddit karma farm. But it is a bit more complicated when you consider that half of the european democracies are a couple percentage off from being the next Hungary, USA, Austia, Slovakia whatever.
Yes please. No need for Putin and Trump allies in Europe.
Just boot them out.
WHERE DO I SIIIIIIIGN?!?!
It is time for EU federation
Same for Netherlands. Take their voting rights away!
For that to happen, the government in Slovakia needs to fall and Fico needs to stop being Prime-Minister. And that needs to happen fast because the Czech Republic government won’t last much longer.
This one of EU problems they can not move fast. US can go nuts 180° in few weeks or even days.
Changing the voting system would be a better play. Why is it that a single veto can decide against literally every other vote? That’s foolish. Make it count when anything reaches 80%.
Btw when Orban’s veto’s get crippled, or he’s no longer a prime minister from 2026, I forsee a very high chance of all his and his oligarch’s aka piggybank’s money will be immediately transferred to Russia and he somehow falls out of a window as he will no longer be useful to Putin.
I wish.
Do you want to fix this? Then further integration between EU members it is as that’s the only way vetoing can be removed and a single country “blocking” the rest can be stopped.
Veto only exists in those cases outside the treaties and on things that the members have decide to leave outside the EU majority voting jurisdiction, removing the vote of one country (if that’s even possible) it’s not the way to fix this.
The issue is that many countries don’t want to risk themselves to be trapped on a EU foreign and defense policy they don’t like so this is not going to happen. What’s happening now is there by design, this things have been left out on purpose and the hay to fix it is moving forward with more integration, not by expelling a country or removing their right to vote.
Not possible, Slovakia would veto it
Whoever disagrees with me shouldn’t have rights. For democracy!