Gli Stati Uniti sospendono la condivisione dell’intelligence con l’Ucraina

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    1. menthos_typhoon on

      What can be more disgusting than this?! Blackmailing a nation in need, stabbing it in the back, stoping what Binden sent (because that orange fucker did not send anything) and now not even intel not going to share. Sorry for my English, but fuck that orange clown and all his cabinet! Fuck him! Fuck them!

    2. splendid_michael on

      US intelligence levels have long since evaporated anyway so..

    3. I’m so trying to understand how anybody voted for this man. I’m almost 40, my entire life had always seen the States and Russia as adversaries. The radicalized people running the Whitehouse is unbelievable.

    4. ResidentSheeper on

      This is pure evil. Trump is worse than putin even.

      Ukraine will never stop fighting.

    5. xieghekal on

      Trump throwing out the rhetoric about brave soldiers and young people dying because he wants the Nobel peace prize. He doesn’t care one iota about humanity or suffering. He’s dead behind the eyes, absolute scum.

    6. EsotericIntegrity on

      And the hits just keep on coming from this delusional douchecanoe.

    7. Balancing-Unbalance on

      Every time I think “How LOW can you go?!”

      And each time Trump finds another level below the last one …

    8. imbrie75 on

      The entire US mode of operation is beyond gross. I cannot even begin to fathom how those on the ground in Ukraine and involved with the military planning etc are feeling. It’s just so indescribably foul.

      God help America if they ever experience another atrocity like 9/11 and seek the assistance of their NATO allies. I hope that that assistance is only provided on the basis of a return on the investment of whoever provides that aid.

    9. vtsnowdin on

      The blackmail continues. At this point Ukraine should expel all American diplomats and intelligence officers as they can not be trusted to not be collaborating with Putin.

    10. Fun_Swan_5363 on

      Yeah because the U.S., now a Russian asset, doesn’t provide intelligence to Russia’s enemies.

      But I’ve got $20 says that we are now sharing our intelligence fully with the KGB. 🫠😭🤬

    11. LilLebowskiAchiever on

      DOGE has been firing (or trying to) thousands at the Intel agencies. Maybe some of them will get scooped up by the other 4 eyes, and they can help Ukraine anyway.

    12. Retro_Carbon on

      I don’t know if it’s a big loss at this point considering that intelligence is steeped in propaganda and deliberate misinformation.

      But I’m just a dumb American so anyone can feel free to correct my statement.

    13. R0B0T0-san on

      I expect tomorrow news to be something like : America starts arming Russia to promote peace in Ukraine.

    14. Opposite-Chemistry-0 on

      There is so much evidence that Trump is Russian agent.

    15. Recent events suggest the US is running low on intelligence and may have none to spare.

      Sorry, I could not resist, but remain hopeful that our neighbours to the south will regain their principles and sanity, restore all support for Ukraine, and mend relationships with allies across the globe.

    16. RepulsiveMetal8713 on

      so trump wants ruzzia to bomb the shit of Ukraine because Zelenskyy stood up to the old orange fat fuck

    17. ThePlanner on

      Can anyone point me towards a single *new* form of pressure that has been applied to Russia by the Trump administration to compel Putin to end the war? All I see are giveaways to Russia and a concerted effort to sabotage Ukraine and blackmail it into capitulation.

    18. bumdaysg on

      It’s time to admit, America was always this. Not all, but enough. They always had this in them. We must carve a new path without them. Slava Ukraini

    19. NATO urgently needs to stop sharing intelligence with the US to avoid leaks to Russia.

    20. rawwmc1099 on

      Only good news is that Trump can spout all he wants, but other countries will still share info to Ukraine and they don’t have to let the US know and why would you let the US know at this point. They might as well be telling Russia where everything is now and assume that the US is fully compromised.

      Sucks that Starlink will probably be turned off, but there are other competitors.

    21. missionarymechanic on

      Yeah, there’s not much intelligence left to spare.

      Every “ally” needs to reasses their relationship and reliance on the US. There is no greater proof that any support is as tentative as an election, and as steadfast as a whim. NATO is now just Europe being sandwiched by two mad men.

    22. AnimeSquare on

      The U.S. will suffer for their actions. Not just the politicians, not just the 1% – every single American has to suffer if we’re going to see a change.

    23. johnqpublic81 on

      I don’t think getting European countries to spend 2% of GDP towards defense spending is going to be a problem going forward.

    24. Quick-Philosophy-263 on

      I am 15 what should I do I email trump no response yet

    25. Aleeriater on

      Did Zelensky write a letter claiming he wants to sign the rare earth minerals deal and needs the string leadership of president Trump in a peace deal.
      If it gets peace, I’m all for it

    26. AnnieBMinn on

      Zelensky is that rare world leader with integrity. I was initially upset about Trump’s decision to suspend intelligence sharing, but if I were Ukraine, I wouldn’t trust intelligence from Trump/Musk. They could use it as a tool for gaslighting.

    27. Lenar-Hoyt on

      What about Five Eyes? Shouldn’t the US be thrown out of the loop?

    28. 0ldGuy4EVs on

      Fuk tRUmp. That fascist punk he’s disgusting. Hope syphilis ravages him.

    29. menthos_typhoon on

      What can the Americans do to stop this orange clown? We must not stop this at the level of just words and no action.

    30. EyeWunderY on

      If it was Trump not sharing his “intelligence” it wouldn’t be an issue…

    31. newyorksfinest18 on

      The white house new parole,
      “everything is fucked up and everybody sucks”

    32. That doesn’t look good. Trump does what he wants, Congress is in line and no one can do anything. We are probably experiencing the first weeks of the US as an autocracy, slowly but surely positioned as a systemic rival to Europe.

    33. No, they ran out – there is no intelligence left in the us.

    34. ProfessionalPhone215 on

      Every day gets more and more stupid. Russia needs to be punished not Ukraine. We are living in an opposite reality

    35. CaptainSur on

      To be clear what has happened here is that Trump is forbidding US originated intelligence that was deemed shareable with Ukraine. Some US sourced intelligence actually emanates from CSE Canada which would ordinarily have gone straight to a myriad of US intelligence clearing houses and from there it would have been disseminated to other partners.

      Now the other allies in 5 Eyes will have to do the job directly. Time for Canada to put more satellites (they already have hundreds) into space, as well as France & UK.

      It will be up to the UK to decide if they will follow the request from America. Likely they will, but they may also use that US intelligence to corroborate intelligence gathered via other means and share the latter knowing it has a high degree of confidence.

      Ukraine values all intelligence. It should be remembered that they have extensive local intelligence which plays a key role in many of their targeting decisions. I might go so far as to suggest that for other than deep strikes into ruzzia it is local intelligence that determines much of their targeting.

      I also think it likely that by now Ukraine has a very good idea of the locations of military industrial infrastructure inside of ruzzia. They have 3 yrs of data now of this. So they have a good base of information. The challenge will be to keep it continually updated. We know Ukraine has a partisan network in ruzzia but I suspect that on its own is insufficient. So electronics intelligence from allies other than America is going to be important.

      It is really quite amazing as to how determined Trump is to race to the bottom. He is pursuing a really aggressive pro-ruzzia and isolationist policy. Hoping perhaps to weaken the balance of NATO.

      I will be curious to see how long Americans put up with this course of action.

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