>Palin helpfully offered four scenarios for such a crisis, **one of which was this strange one:**
>>After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.
>**As we’ve said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario.** And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine’s pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don’t see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
toolkitxx on
It should be noted that this was a very chaotic political period in Ukraine. It coincided with NATO making an official statement about Ukraine future relation with NATO. Depending on which side is asked or a source belongs to, this is generally considered the turning point, that lead to the events that culminated in the invasion by Russia.
[quote ](https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_8443.htm)*’NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia.’*
*MAP = Membership Action Plan*
bbbar on
Russians abroad will pretend that they didn’t know about the invasion till the end of the universe
Tall_Tipshe on
No one gave a fuck about Georgia back than. Now we got Ukraine and next will be Europe.
Presidents of 6 nations visited Georgia back than. Poland, was one of them they know they are the next.
Common_Brick_8222 on
They were right
Ensamvakt on
As a reminder, Turkey was one of the countries that supported Georgia the most in 2008, and even at that time it was the country that proposed the admission of Ukraine to NATO, which was opposed by many EU member states, such as France. Turkey was militarily supporting Ukraine even before the Russian invasion started. Russia is best known to those who have an intensive history with Russia like Poland, Turkiye, Ukraine etc. When I talk about historical relations here, I am mostly talking about rivalry and war.
Big-Economics-1495 on
They were right
Scuipici on
this is why i get angry and argue with people when they say “nah it’s never going to happen, you are paranoid” and laugh at me when all the signs are there. We need to rearm, we need to be sceptical of usa and be independent for our defence, else we pay a huge price later.
OkFaithlessness2652 on
Maybe not the best action of George W to propose the maybe membership. This really got things sour.
But really impressed by the visionary of this article.
-Stoic- on
If only EU hadn’t chosen to stay delusional about russia at that point.
maybe_someone_idk on
Did you grab this from me in r/reddit_ukr? It has the same text and I post it ~ 6 hours before you post it
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Interesting
Where does Sarah Palin go for her apology?
[Russia might invade Ukraine if Obama wins, Palin warns.](https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/10/22/russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-palin-warns/)
>Palin helpfully offered four scenarios for such a crisis, **one of which was this strange one:**
>>After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.
>**As we’ve said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario.** And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine’s pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don’t see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
It should be noted that this was a very chaotic political period in Ukraine. It coincided with NATO making an official statement about Ukraine future relation with NATO. Depending on which side is asked or a source belongs to, this is generally considered the turning point, that lead to the events that culminated in the invasion by Russia.
[quote ](https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_8443.htm)*’NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia.’*
*MAP = Membership Action Plan*
Russians abroad will pretend that they didn’t know about the invasion till the end of the universe
No one gave a fuck about Georgia back than. Now we got Ukraine and next will be Europe.
Presidents of 6 nations visited Georgia back than. Poland, was one of them they know they are the next.
They were right
As a reminder, Turkey was one of the countries that supported Georgia the most in 2008, and even at that time it was the country that proposed the admission of Ukraine to NATO, which was opposed by many EU member states, such as France. Turkey was militarily supporting Ukraine even before the Russian invasion started. Russia is best known to those who have an intensive history with Russia like Poland, Turkiye, Ukraine etc. When I talk about historical relations here, I am mostly talking about rivalry and war.
They were right
this is why i get angry and argue with people when they say “nah it’s never going to happen, you are paranoid” and laugh at me when all the signs are there. We need to rearm, we need to be sceptical of usa and be independent for our defence, else we pay a huge price later.
Maybe not the best action of George W to propose the maybe membership. This really got things sour.
But really impressed by the visionary of this article.
If only EU hadn’t chosen to stay delusional about russia at that point.
Did you grab this from me in r/reddit_ukr? It has the same text and I post it ~ 6 hours before you post it