Ciao,
Come puoi vedere nelle foto, il mio padrone di casa mi sta chiedendo di pagare un Nachzahlung 777 € per il 2023. Viviamo nell’appartamento dal 1 maggio 2023, e questo importo mi sembra piuttosto alto.
Ci ha anche inviato Einzelabrechnung (seconda foto), ma sto lottando per abbinare i numeri nella sua lettera con quelli sul documento. Ho provato a affrontarlo, ma nulla sembra sommare esattamente.
Qualcun altro ha affrontato una situazione simile? Questo importo è ragionevole o potrebbe esserci un errore? Di solito pago tutto, ma 777 € sembra troppo. Qualche consiglio su come verificarlo correttamente?
Grazie in anticipo!
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di TogetherForever07
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As far as I know, you don’t have to pay the invoice at all, since the deadline for the 2023 Nebenkosten ran out at the end of 2024.
You can completely ignore it. Last possible date to send this letter was 31.12.2024
Also paying 100 Nebenkosten seems a bit low to cover all the cost. You should increase it for future payments so you don’t have to pay bigger sum of money later.
Abrechnungszeitraum is 01.01.2023-31.12.2023. He would’ve had to send you the Abrechnung until 31.12.2024. He did not so it’s his problem now.
Your landlord should’ve sent you this until 31.12.2024.
Unless he can prove that it wasn’t his fault for sending it only now (and I don’t see one) you don’t have to pay it.
The Deadline is over lol
There are also multiple mistakes in the letter from the landlord. So it would need correction anyways. And because it’s too late, he can’t invoice you.
The 2256,73€ are for the whole year. That’s the stuff he can pass onto you.
2256,73 * (8/12) = 1504,48€
(IMO) Sign up for a Mieterbund and give them the letter. I don’t even interact with my landlords anymore. Anything they send me I send right over to the MB.
Regarding the numbers: Your landlord owns a flat in a building.
Second page is the bill he got from the building management.
The only part that concerns you would be the middle „Mieterumlagefähige Kosten“. 2256,73€ divided by 12 month and multiplied by the eight months you have been renting gives you exactly 1504,48€ from the first page.
That’s the easy way to calculate your part, but it’s also not legal. Heating cost must be calculated by your actual usage for the eight months, as this is really depending on the season.
Since January and February are expensive months for heating, that’s to your disadvantage.
Now given the date, since your landlord got the bill in November 2024, he might still have time, the law is a bit more complicated than the other posts say.
Talk to a Mieterschutzbund or a lawyer to challenge the bill, you can at least lower it.
It was created in November 2024, so it is weird that you got it just now. That being said (so the comments about ignoring it can be not useful to you, if the Hausverwaltung service can prove they sent it before the year was over), you’re right that the numbers don’t match (the detailed Nebenkosten are 1074,83€ + 72,76€ don’t make 1577,24), unless there’s a second page to what you posted or something. I would ask for clarification as to why you are receiving this now and as to the amount.
So to answer your question: there are costs which can be passed on to the tenant and some that aren’t.
The first column in the second paper is the total for all apartments. The column “Ihr Anteil” is what the landlord has to pay for the apartment. “Mietumlagefähige Kosten” are the costs that can be passed on to the tenant, the others that can not. So for the year 2023 the amount of costs the landlord had to pay and can pass on to you is 2.256,73€
As you did not live in the apartment the whole 12 months, it’s only 8/12 of the sum. That’s 1.504,49€, minus 800,- is 704.49€ plus 8/12 of Grundsteuer makes 777€
I’m assuming that the landlord owns only one apartment in the complex and not multiple.
That means you’ll probably have to pay at least 2.300€ for 2024 and you’ve only paid 1.200€ Nebenkosten ahead. Like the others have said, I’d advise you to double the Nebenkosten to avoid having to pay more at the end of the year. 200€ Nebenkosten for Munich are ok, especially as it includes heating and electricity.