So much credit! It’s a shame Zelenskyy immediately agreed to the minerals deal and ceasefire after the US decided to cut its help to Ukraine, he probably doesn’t read enough Reddit about the mighty EU war machine.
Animationzerotohero on
Yes and Americans pay them selves 1000% more on all their equipment out of their own taxpayers money and then put the blame on other countries saying they pay more than us. They rob their own people and profiteer from the places they use their military but those profits still probably don’t make it back to their taxpayers
tomski_1977 on
Yeah, but it’s american hardware so trump will claim usa did al the support as it was their material. Who paid for it is not important at this moment.
/s
SoseVoltJobb on
Russia would lead the list if you count the left behind equipment.
Koi_Hai on
Majority of These equipments were owned by American & Of American Origin, Stationed in Europe at Nato Bases, American Bases. It makes sense to transport from Europe to Ukraine then from North America to Ukraine.
Plus I had read a report a year ago, Most of the equipments supplied to Ukraine for initial 15 months were old equipments. Ukraine war gave them good opportunity to dispose them & replace the very product with latest version / better & longer self life for self use at NATO bases.
A1D4- on
Great, but now we need to ask why USA gave their ATACMS missiles to Ukraine, and Germany can’t spare their Taurus?
(France and GB gave their SCALP, no problem with that).
So, comparsion table is well made, but somehow cherrypicking, much data are missing. Add MANPADS, ATGMs, artillery munitions, and we’ll see better.
Additional_Display91 on
Yes, 27 countries in the EU should be sending more equipment than one US. We all hate this orange wack job but please stop trying to twist the narrative
OldManMarc88 on
A little disproportionate and/or misleading seeing as ‘Europe’ is a significant amount of countries, economies and militaries.
pieter_026 on
Why do you compare a continent with 44 countries to one country?
home3rd on
The snooty USA urgently needs a reality check. No matter where they appear, they think they are something better. But yes, those who fly high will fall low.
Ok_Price_6599 on
Nah, it’s me. I sent all of those things. Everything credited to the US? Fake news.
It’s from me, random redditor. Unbelievable how everyone got fooled.
Won’t be sending more of my choppers until you all thank me while wearing a formal chicken suit.
WhiteandRedorDead on
Yanks have been the chest thumping self-proclaimed defenders of Democracy and Justice for decades. Now the free world is sick of their shit, and we are piecing the bubble of the self-aggrandizement, and narcisstic world view, and they are having a melt down realizing they are in fact, not the greatest country in the world.
stevesmd on
Let’s show that to Trump so he can claim all that is fake news. 🤣
PrimoDima on
They say USA sent around 20% of military equipment but is the most deadly. Ukraine needs USA.
DisneyVHSMuseum on
Missiles for eggs!
Ok_Possible_2260 on
This is not accurate. Most of what was donated by European states will be replaced by the US government in conjunction with other governments. This wasn’t a completely selfless act by the Europeans. Simply, it’s just not, and to paint it as such is inaccurate.
* 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
* HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
* AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
* More than 3,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
* Avenger air defense systems;
* VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
* c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
* Mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
* Other c-UAS equipment;
* Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
* Air defense systems components;
* Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
* Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities; and
* 21 air surveillance radars.
**Fires**
* More than 40 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and ammunition;
* Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
* More than 200 155mm Howitzers and more than 3,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
* More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
* More than 100,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
* 72 105mm Howitzers and 1,000,000 105mm artillery rounds;
* 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
* More than 400,000 152mm artillery rounds;
* Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
* 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
* 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
* More than 300 mortar systems;
No_Dig473 on
This proves again that when you shout lies very loud and keep shouting the same things, people will blindly believe it.
priapoc on
What period are we talking about here. Didn’t the US also send javelins? What exactly are we talking about here. Or are we cherry picking?
AnUnusedCondom on
Very false representation of all actual assets sent.
hobokobo1028 on
How many countries is “Europe” though?
FrozenChocoProduce on
The real value has always been the access to the incomparable wealth of US intelligence, use of live satellite imagery etc., that gave Ukraine a massive boost. To halt that without prior warnings cost Ukraine hundreds of lives in matter of days. It’s not useful to blame the US for anything, and not useful to blame Europe for anything. This will only grow discontent between allies – exactly what Putin needs and wants, and the reason he keeps going with the war that he can’t win realistically. To keep driving that wedge between us, through reactions like this or agent Krasnov himself.
Atlas4088 on
1. Many European countries have supplied Ukraine with severely outdated equipment. For example, Germany provided Gepard anti-aircraft systems and older missile systems, while the UK sent Saxon armoured personnel carriers. In contrast, the United States has supplied significantly newer and more expensive equipment.
2. Additionally, several EU nations continue to purchase Russian oil, whereas the United States has ceased such imports.
This whole “America bad” ideology is getting ridiculous, these numbers don’t give context to what equipment is ACTUALLY being sent.
To the future downvoters: facts don’t give a fuck about your feelings, keep being misinformed and uneducated, it suits you.
the_gd_donkey on
Right. And they should not be dictating ceasefire arrangements. The Trump administration, absolutely, needs to be sidelined for the betterment of Ukraine.
Enzo_Gorlomi225 on
This chart is not even remotely accurate…
Gold-Salary-8265 on
I don’t see the famous German Helmets of 2022 on that list.
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So much credit! It’s a shame Zelenskyy immediately agreed to the minerals deal and ceasefire after the US decided to cut its help to Ukraine, he probably doesn’t read enough Reddit about the mighty EU war machine.
Yes and Americans pay them selves 1000% more on all their equipment out of their own taxpayers money and then put the blame on other countries saying they pay more than us. They rob their own people and profiteer from the places they use their military but those profits still probably don’t make it back to their taxpayers
Yeah, but it’s american hardware so trump will claim usa did al the support as it was their material. Who paid for it is not important at this moment.
/s
Russia would lead the list if you count the left behind equipment.
Majority of These equipments were owned by American & Of American Origin, Stationed in Europe at Nato Bases, American Bases. It makes sense to transport from Europe to Ukraine then from North America to Ukraine.
Plus I had read a report a year ago, Most of the equipments supplied to Ukraine for initial 15 months were old equipments. Ukraine war gave them good opportunity to dispose them & replace the very product with latest version / better & longer self life for self use at NATO bases.
Great, but now we need to ask why USA gave their ATACMS missiles to Ukraine, and Germany can’t spare their Taurus?
(France and GB gave their SCALP, no problem with that).
So, comparsion table is well made, but somehow cherrypicking, much data are missing. Add MANPADS, ATGMs, artillery munitions, and we’ll see better.
Yes, 27 countries in the EU should be sending more equipment than one US. We all hate this orange wack job but please stop trying to twist the narrative
A little disproportionate and/or misleading seeing as ‘Europe’ is a significant amount of countries, economies and militaries.
Why do you compare a continent with 44 countries to one country?
The snooty USA urgently needs a reality check. No matter where they appear, they think they are something better. But yes, those who fly high will fall low.
Nah, it’s me. I sent all of those things. Everything credited to the US? Fake news.
It’s from me, random redditor. Unbelievable how everyone got fooled.
Won’t be sending more of my choppers until you all thank me while wearing a formal chicken suit.
Yanks have been the chest thumping self-proclaimed defenders of Democracy and Justice for decades. Now the free world is sick of their shit, and we are piecing the bubble of the self-aggrandizement, and narcisstic world view, and they are having a melt down realizing they are in fact, not the greatest country in the world.
Let’s show that to Trump so he can claim all that is fake news. 🤣
They say USA sent around 20% of military equipment but is the most deadly. Ukraine needs USA.
Missiles for eggs!
This is not accurate. Most of what was donated by European states will be replaced by the US government in conjunction with other governments. This wasn’t a completely selfless act by the Europeans. Simply, it’s just not, and to paint it as such is inaccurate.
[https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/releases/2025/01/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine](https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/releases/2025/01/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine)
* 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
* HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
* AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
* More than 3,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
* Avenger air defense systems;
* VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
* c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
* Mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
* Other c-UAS equipment;
* Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
* Air defense systems components;
* Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
* Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities; and
* 21 air surveillance radars.
**Fires**
* More than 40 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and ammunition;
* Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
* More than 200 155mm Howitzers and more than 3,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
* More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
* More than 100,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
* 72 105mm Howitzers and 1,000,000 105mm artillery rounds;
* 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
* More than 400,000 152mm artillery rounds;
* Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
* 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
* 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
* More than 300 mortar systems;
This proves again that when you shout lies very loud and keep shouting the same things, people will blindly believe it.
What period are we talking about here. Didn’t the US also send javelins? What exactly are we talking about here. Or are we cherry picking?
Very false representation of all actual assets sent.
How many countries is “Europe” though?
The real value has always been the access to the incomparable wealth of US intelligence, use of live satellite imagery etc., that gave Ukraine a massive boost. To halt that without prior warnings cost Ukraine hundreds of lives in matter of days. It’s not useful to blame the US for anything, and not useful to blame Europe for anything. This will only grow discontent between allies – exactly what Putin needs and wants, and the reason he keeps going with the war that he can’t win realistically. To keep driving that wedge between us, through reactions like this or agent Krasnov himself.
1. Many European countries have supplied Ukraine with severely outdated equipment. For example, Germany provided Gepard anti-aircraft systems and older missile systems, while the UK sent Saxon armoured personnel carriers. In contrast, the United States has supplied significantly newer and more expensive equipment.
2. Additionally, several EU nations continue to purchase Russian oil, whereas the United States has ceased such imports.
This whole “America bad” ideology is getting ridiculous, these numbers don’t give context to what equipment is ACTUALLY being sent.
To the future downvoters: facts don’t give a fuck about your feelings, keep being misinformed and uneducated, it suits you.
Right. And they should not be dictating ceasefire arrangements. The Trump administration, absolutely, needs to be sidelined for the betterment of Ukraine.
This chart is not even remotely accurate…
I don’t see the famous German Helmets of 2022 on that list.