This is not my domain of expertise, but wouldn’t it be useful for them to merge? To achieve economies of scale and be capable of competing with already established Starlink?
QuantumInfinity on
None of those are viable yet so no, they are not alternatives.
gradinka on
The problem is…
Nobody has heard of them.
While anyone can *just buy* a Starlink kit and use it, right now.
It’s available, it just works, and its not very expensive. Even in BG its quite popular in remote areas, mountain lodges and whatnot where telecom coverage is spotty.
The alternatives has to all beat that, or at least get as good, or the Chinese will offer something better, and people will switch to *that.*
CombinationEnough624 on
See, EU can into space π
After the glorious flight of the Ariane rocket and Elmo’s devastating failed space-ship, I think we’re gaining the upper hand now!
yetindeed on
None of these are an alternative to Starlink. The only viable alternative is Jeff Bezos’s Amazon Project Kuiper, and that’s several years away.
– Lower Latency β LEO satellites (~500β1,200 km) have much shorter signal travel times than GEO (~35,786 km), reducing latency from ~600ms (GEO) to ~20-50ms (LEO).
– Higher Speeds & Performance β Low latency enables faster internet and better real-time applications (video calls, gaming, etc.).
– Better Coverage in Polar Regions β GEO satellites can’t cover the poles, but LEO constellations can provide global connectivity.
– Stronger Signals β Closer proximity means less signal degradation and better performance with smaller antennas (e.g., Starlink’s user terminals).
– Higher Network Capacity β LEO constellations scale better with more satellites, reducing congestion compared to single GEO satellites.
IRISΒ² plans to have LEO satellites later on, but these are the last satellites it plans to launch since there’s lot s of questions around cost. Space X is full vertically integrated, coupled with this and it’s insanely cheap launch costs due to it’s reusable rockets.
Europe is at least 7-10 years behind. The first step is understanding the difference between LEO and Geostationary internet satellites.
brokenmessiah on
If they were viable alternatives, they would have been used already.
svjaty on
There was a news article, that one of the satellite network is used by Russians to eavesdrop.
Is it just a hoax or truth?
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This is not my domain of expertise, but wouldn’t it be useful for them to merge? To achieve economies of scale and be capable of competing with already established Starlink?
None of those are viable yet so no, they are not alternatives.
The problem is…
Nobody has heard of them.
While anyone can *just buy* a Starlink kit and use it, right now.
It’s available, it just works, and its not very expensive. Even in BG its quite popular in remote areas, mountain lodges and whatnot where telecom coverage is spotty.
The alternatives has to all beat that, or at least get as good, or the Chinese will offer something better, and people will switch to *that.*
See, EU can into space π
After the glorious flight of the Ariane rocket and Elmo’s devastating failed space-ship, I think we’re gaining the upper hand now!
None of these are an alternative to Starlink. The only viable alternative is Jeff Bezos’s Amazon Project Kuiper, and that’s several years away.
Starlink (SpaceX) uses Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites.
– Lower Latency β LEO satellites (~500β1,200 km) have much shorter signal travel times than GEO (~35,786 km), reducing latency from ~600ms (GEO) to ~20-50ms (LEO).
– Higher Speeds & Performance β Low latency enables faster internet and better real-time applications (video calls, gaming, etc.).
– Better Coverage in Polar Regions β GEO satellites can’t cover the poles, but LEO constellations can provide global connectivity.
– Stronger Signals β Closer proximity means less signal degradation and better performance with smaller antennas (e.g., Starlink’s user terminals).
– Higher Network Capacity β LEO constellations scale better with more satellites, reducing congestion compared to single GEO satellites.
IRISΒ² plans to have LEO satellites later on, but these are the last satellites it plans to launch since there’s lot s of questions around cost. Space X is full vertically integrated, coupled with this and it’s insanely cheap launch costs due to it’s reusable rockets.
Europe is at least 7-10 years behind. The first step is understanding the difference between LEO and Geostationary internet satellites.
If they were viable alternatives, they would have been used already.
There was a news article, that one of the satellite network is used by Russians to eavesdrop.
Is it just a hoax or truth?