>If the U.S. does give up SACEUR, the other NATO nations would likely have to choose among themselves which country would put forward the commander.
Make it a permanent EU position. Voted in by a simple majority of heads of governments. European Non EU-members are allowed to vote and put forward candidates (UK, Norway).
Fluid-Piccolo-6911 on
Good. its about time to hand over to the adults.
RTYUI4tech on
*happy french noise in the distance*
hgartti on
At this point an ordered transition in the way out is the best possible scenario.
PerformanceOk4962 on
How long until Russia invades and attacks the Baltic countries if their Invasion of Ukraine is halted? Does Russia have capacity to rearm fast and replenish its manpower?
Fluffyfiffy on
“Mercy”
RonaldPenguin on
Put this along side [China’s glee at Trumps defunding of Voice of America](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwzmj9v34o). Nearly a century of soft and hard global power being fed into the wood chipper.
WeAreTheMachine368 on
The Russians and Chinese will be drinking vodka and moutai straight from the bottle tonight!
OkKnowledge2064 on
Give it poland
CriticalTruthSeeker on
Cutting cables in the Baltic can be considered an act of war by Russia. Who is ready to put NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine? Whoever that is, put them in charge. Putin needs a smackdown
pivotes on
Please don’t pick Italy
Naarujuana on
Honestly, this would be a great thing for both Europe AND the US.
All but 2 NATO members (and >50% of the population) are European, and the bloc was established specifically to secure Europe (North America by extension). That said, the UK, French & Germans should head it up. That simply provides more localized control of the bloc for the majority of the population.
America’s focus has shifted more towards Asia over the past 20+ years, and I don’t think a valid argument exists in which Europe isn’t secondary to Asia for US strategic interests. For the US, a back seat role in NATO would free up bandwidth, assets, man-power, for the Pacific.
It’s 2025, not 1990. NATO is strong enough to effectively protect itself w/o American leadership.
boxcarwilliesboxcar on
Next up, Europe sends every American military member, DoD civilian, and contractor from every base in Europe back to the US.
Valuable-Flounder692 on
Good
GladForChokolade on
I think NATO will be better without America as it’s based on trust and cooperation. Things America has decided not to value anymore.
_CatLover_ on
It’s Turkey time, gobble gobble
Gafdilli627 on
SACEUR should never have been a “US only” appointment. It should have always rotated between NATO countries.
cascadia8 on
Command shouldn’t be in the hands of a hostile government like maga. They are pro Russia. Elmo and don are ruski agents.
londonsown2 on
I hope they hand it over to the Russians 👌
aluaji on
I say replace them with Poland. If not for anything else, at least it would piss off Pootin something fierce.
Basement_Chicken on
Asset does what assets do, giving it up to Putin.
ActualDW on
This would mean US troops wouldn’t be committed to NATO…
I’m not sure I’d be reading this as a positive…
Ok_Photo_865 on
That would be perfect 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
LifeSage on
I hate how fucking stupid Trump is.
Eternal__damnation on
I can hear the Élysée Palace erupting with joy from here
Cold_Sort_3225 on
Yes! Get us out of there. Let their third world war be fought on their own
isoexo on
They don’t really deserve it
djvam on
THis is probably because he’s planning to remove US troops from Europe and NATO all together soon and is trying to make the transition to Euro defence smoother for them.
tnguyen5057 on
Yes finally pull out from Europe and let them fund and fight their own wars.
ManonFire1213 on
Do it.
Stuntz on
Good. Let the Europeans lead Europe’s defense. If the White House is going to be full of drug-addled rapist children with useless sycophantic position picks, the best thing they can do is allow space for the adults to occupy. Europe needs this now more than ever.
Impressive_Estate_87 on
I mean, NATO as we’ve known it for decades is over, that’s pretty clear by now.
Let’s hope Europe doesn’t fuck it up with internal fights. The pro-Putin right parties are a threat
burrito_napkin on
Everyone in Europe been yapping nonstop about how the US doesn’t control NATO. Wild levels of bs.
Geord1evillan on
He may not really have much of a choice.
The Brits and Germans have passed 2IC around for long enough, might be an idea to reinstate the dual role.
LARufCTR on
We will continue to give up influence and we will be left out of decisions and soon the dollar will no longer be the global standard…and we will truly be alone….just like Melania, although she is still sexting w/Trudeau!
Independent-Buyer827 on
NATO: please let us go.
TittysForever on
Hello agent krasnov
MaserGT on
Best idea ever. It is insane for the EU to subjugate its collective nations’ security to the U.S. military industrial complex. What existed in the Cold War as a beneficial mutual deference has since the fall of the Soviet Union served only as a means by which the U.S. meddles and perverts the national security interests of other NATO members. If ever there was an organisation well past its Sell-By date it is NATO. The EU (and Canada, and the UK) needs a made in EU/UK/Canada collective nation security policy entirely separate and apart from U.S. profit driven war mongering. That all said, I hereby summons the fragile psyche septic downvotes.
random-gyy on
Wouldn’t be a bad thing
SunshineFlowerPerson on
They are clearly the enemy of NATO under Shitler. why should they be heading a security organization when their country is an obvious Russian asset?
LMurch13 on
Are we great again? I think we’re great again.
Compulsive_Bater on
Trump moves us closer and closer everyday to withdrawing from NATO and aligning with Russia.
Even on the call today they discussed economic advantages of working together. He is making America great again by turning it into a third world country where the people don’t have eggs, fuel, jobs, or stability. A country where oligarchs steak every penny for themselves and the people disappear for speaking up. Sounds a lot like another country huh.
Trump, maga, and the Republican party are the biggest fucking anti American traitors this country has ever seen. When the time comes I hope to see every single one strung up along Pennsylvania Ave.
Unbelievable.
hlamaresq on
Good
Nero-Stud on
Question? If America leaves NATO, what does it get from doing that? What’s dumpy’s logic?
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>If the U.S. does give up SACEUR, the other NATO nations would likely have to choose among themselves which country would put forward the commander.
Make it a permanent EU position. Voted in by a simple majority of heads of governments. European Non EU-members are allowed to vote and put forward candidates (UK, Norway).
Good. its about time to hand over to the adults.
*happy french noise in the distance*
At this point an ordered transition in the way out is the best possible scenario.
How long until Russia invades and attacks the Baltic countries if their Invasion of Ukraine is halted? Does Russia have capacity to rearm fast and replenish its manpower?
“Mercy”
Put this along side [China’s glee at Trumps defunding of Voice of America](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwzmj9v34o). Nearly a century of soft and hard global power being fed into the wood chipper.
The Russians and Chinese will be drinking vodka and moutai straight from the bottle tonight!
Give it poland
Cutting cables in the Baltic can be considered an act of war by Russia. Who is ready to put NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine? Whoever that is, put them in charge. Putin needs a smackdown
Please don’t pick Italy
Honestly, this would be a great thing for both Europe AND the US.
All but 2 NATO members (and >50% of the population) are European, and the bloc was established specifically to secure Europe (North America by extension). That said, the UK, French & Germans should head it up. That simply provides more localized control of the bloc for the majority of the population.
America’s focus has shifted more towards Asia over the past 20+ years, and I don’t think a valid argument exists in which Europe isn’t secondary to Asia for US strategic interests. For the US, a back seat role in NATO would free up bandwidth, assets, man-power, for the Pacific.
It’s 2025, not 1990. NATO is strong enough to effectively protect itself w/o American leadership.
Next up, Europe sends every American military member, DoD civilian, and contractor from every base in Europe back to the US.
Good
I think NATO will be better without America as it’s based on trust and cooperation. Things America has decided not to value anymore.
It’s Turkey time, gobble gobble
SACEUR should never have been a “US only” appointment. It should have always rotated between NATO countries.
Command shouldn’t be in the hands of a hostile government like maga. They are pro Russia. Elmo and don are ruski agents.
I hope they hand it over to the Russians 👌
I say replace them with Poland. If not for anything else, at least it would piss off Pootin something fierce.
Asset does what assets do, giving it up to Putin.
This would mean US troops wouldn’t be committed to NATO…
I’m not sure I’d be reading this as a positive…
That would be perfect 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I hate how fucking stupid Trump is.
I can hear the Élysée Palace erupting with joy from here
Yes! Get us out of there. Let their third world war be fought on their own
They don’t really deserve it
THis is probably because he’s planning to remove US troops from Europe and NATO all together soon and is trying to make the transition to Euro defence smoother for them.
Yes finally pull out from Europe and let them fund and fight their own wars.
Do it.
Good. Let the Europeans lead Europe’s defense. If the White House is going to be full of drug-addled rapist children with useless sycophantic position picks, the best thing they can do is allow space for the adults to occupy. Europe needs this now more than ever.
I mean, NATO as we’ve known it for decades is over, that’s pretty clear by now.
Let’s hope Europe doesn’t fuck it up with internal fights. The pro-Putin right parties are a threat
Everyone in Europe been yapping nonstop about how the US doesn’t control NATO. Wild levels of bs.
He may not really have much of a choice.
The Brits and Germans have passed 2IC around for long enough, might be an idea to reinstate the dual role.
We will continue to give up influence and we will be left out of decisions and soon the dollar will no longer be the global standard…and we will truly be alone….just like Melania, although she is still sexting w/Trudeau!
NATO: please let us go.
Hello agent krasnov
Best idea ever. It is insane for the EU to subjugate its collective nations’ security to the U.S. military industrial complex. What existed in the Cold War as a beneficial mutual deference has since the fall of the Soviet Union served only as a means by which the U.S. meddles and perverts the national security interests of other NATO members. If ever there was an organisation well past its Sell-By date it is NATO. The EU (and Canada, and the UK) needs a made in EU/UK/Canada collective nation security policy entirely separate and apart from U.S. profit driven war mongering. That all said, I hereby summons the fragile psyche septic downvotes.
Wouldn’t be a bad thing
They are clearly the enemy of NATO under Shitler. why should they be heading a security organization when their country is an obvious Russian asset?
Are we great again? I think we’re great again.
Trump moves us closer and closer everyday to withdrawing from NATO and aligning with Russia.
Even on the call today they discussed economic advantages of working together. He is making America great again by turning it into a third world country where the people don’t have eggs, fuel, jobs, or stability. A country where oligarchs steak every penny for themselves and the people disappear for speaking up. Sounds a lot like another country huh.
Trump, maga, and the Republican party are the biggest fucking anti American traitors this country has ever seen. When the time comes I hope to see every single one strung up along Pennsylvania Ave.
Unbelievable.
Good
Question? If America leaves NATO, what does it get from doing that? What’s dumpy’s logic?